Are we living in the past? Or were you trying to be smart?



I'm curious as to why they are questionable. Not because I'm doubting but sincerely curious.

Red the Holy Qur'an: it's simple the BEST guidance from God to mankind.

The ONLY BOOK on earth which is truly perfect.

Case Closed

I really don't like you. You are either a super annoying troll, or an idiotic delusional religious fanatic that has no capacity to think outside the dogma you've been programmed to believe.

They are questionable because they are rather important to his/the author's claim, and would each require justification.

1. Why should we assume we are more than our physical mind (what he really should say is body, that is my understanding of what he means in this instance, our brains instead of our "minds".) He is starting out with an assumed mind/body dualism that has been toted as truth, however recent philosophers have cast serious doubt on this assumption. When tested, this assumption does not necessarily stand and therefore should be justified.

2. Anyone can know the truth - really, I mean this needs some sort of justification. He assumes there is an ultimate truth, the present, which in and of itself will need an argument, then he will need to connect how he comes to the assumption that anyone can know this truth. Its nice to say that anyone can know the truth, but you need to demonstrate this, because I think skepticism still has a solid argument against humans being capable of knowing any kind of "truth". Descartes attempted this explanation and failed, so, what is the authors'?

3. We are all spiritual beings - well, thats nice but what does this mean, what is a spiritual being? If this is the 2nd part of his dualism (the mind part detached from the body) it falls to the same problem as 1

4. How do you "know" those quotes are true. First, you are going to beed to explain how we gain knowledge (other than "open you mind", this is not an answer it is empty rhetoric in this case) then you need to justify why those quotes are true.

This post was edited by mike14e on Nov 5 2012 08:00am

Once again the purpose of this thread is not to debate.
I can answer your questions, but if you really want the answers, why don't you read The Present as I adviced you to do ?
I can only show you the door, you have to walk through it.

I know you said you don't want to debate it, but I'm saying you should. And I'm not reading the book because I am not all that interested :/ However, I will look at Ideas/Arguments you post in here (so long as they arent too long and arent just quotes)

Sorry, but there is nothing to argue about... 2+2 = 4 no matter what you think.
Sharing is something, arguing is different... Arguing only brings division, I am talking about unity of mankind here. The truth is universal and unifying.
I will be happy to share everything I find that could help anyone that seek the truth to find it.
You ask for quotes that are not too long... I can not do that, it is not easy to clear your mind from the lies and deceptions... it takes time and endurance... It mostly takes desire and effort.
If you are a truth seeker, you will do the effort, I am sure of that.
So here is a quote I would like to share today... I am not sure I am allowed to copy paste it from facebook, so I will just link you to the facebook post : http://www.facebook.com/KnowledgeOfToday/posts/492711014084415
They usualy post good stuff on this facebook group : "knowledge of today"
Of course my favorite facebook group is "the truth contest".

This post was edited by Eti_fr on Nov 5 2012 11:26am

Whoever takes anything in this thread seriously is a mouth-breathing neanderthal. There's my argument.
Any following points can be counter-argued by referring to my initial argument.