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Jun 21 2012 01:09pm
Quote (xXAn0nym0usXx @ Jun 21 2012 07:09pm)
That bold part means that some men are born without the ability to reproduce, some men physically become that way, and those who take the vow of priesthood can't have kids.  A eunuch is someone who is castrated.


They can never have kids?
no they spew knowledge and create kids of the lord!
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in high school I was a homophobe just because homosexuality was typically seen as the most uncool thing imaginable
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in high school I was a homophobe just because homosexuality was typically seen as the most uncool thing imaginable


My brother think what happened to Jesus for telling people his belief's
then think what could have happened if you told them yours
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That bold part means that some men are born without the ability to reproduce, some men physically become that way, and those who take the vow of priesthood can't have kids.  A eunuch is someone who is castrated.


Oh trust me.. I understand what a Eunuch is. How Jesus condones homosexuality in that statement is where I am confused.
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Oh trust me.. I understand what a Eunuch is.  How Jesus condones homosexuality in that statement is where I am confused.


I was explaining for the guy who has no idea what he posted.
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I was explaining for the guy who has no idea what he posted.


ah, lol.

I have seen apologists who support homosexuality use this scripture and twist it into what they believe. In no way is this talking about homosexuality. It is talking about those who are impotent.

For one thing being "born gay" was not a thought in biblical times.

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Quote (Dune1 @ Jun 21 2012 07:11pm)
Oh trust me.. I understand what a Eunuch is.  How Jesus condones homosexuality in that statement is where I am confused.


for he is a fake christian
he can give you one example
your body is a temple
of which you worship God
all things in a marriage are just
marriages happened to 12 year olds back in the day of the bible
so I would assume that marriage is not a piece of paper
it is a ticket from the Lord saying
do what you wish you two love each other with the kind of love I give unto you
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Quote (Aidzz @ 21 Jun 2012 12:05)
I hope to take Christianity out of the dark ages.
and into logic
or to take myself out of christianity
and into logic


Most noble thing I've ever heard.
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Most noble thing I've ever heard.


I am not noble but my faith in the lord is noble
I've seen disgusting, disgusting things and I thought this is so wrong there cannot be a God.
but I couldn't of been more wrong
there is a God and many gods.

with God being a synonym for good and gods being a synonym for whatever you wish
I would class current day Christianity as worship of gods.
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Quote (inkanddagger @ Jun 21 2012 02:35pm)
19 Now it came to pass, when Jesus had finished these sayings, that He departed from Galilee and came to the region of Judea beyond the Jordan. 2 And great multitudes followed Him, and He healed them there.

3 The Pharisees also came to Him, testing Him, and saying to Him, “Is it lawful for a man to divorce his wife for just any reason?”

4 And He answered and said to them, “Have you not read that He who made[a] them at the beginning ‘made them male and female,’5 and said, ‘For this reason a man shall leave his father and mother and be joined to his wife, and the two shall become one flesh’?[c] 6 So then, they are no longer two but one flesh. Therefore what God has joined together, let not man separate.”

7 They said to Him, “Why then did Moses command to give a certificate of divorce, and to put her away?”

8 He said to them, “Moses, because of the hardness of your hearts, permitted you to divorce your wives, but from the beginning it was not so. 9 And I say to you, whoever divorces his wife, except for sexual immorality,[d] and marries another, commits adultery; and whoever marries her who is divorced commits adultery.”

10 His disciples said to Him, “If such is the case of the man with his wife, it is better not to marry.”

11 But He said to them, “All cannot accept this saying, but only those to whom it has been given: 12 For there are eunuchs who were born thus from their mother’s womb, and there are eunuchs who were made eunuchs by men,[B]and there are eunuchs who have made themselves eunuchs for the kingdom of heaven’s sake. He who is able to accept it, let him accept it.”


Jesus bashes divorce and condones homosexuality in that passage.


...so now lets take a look at what Mathew Henry had to say in his commentary -



19:3-12 The Pharisees were desirous of drawing something from Jesus which they might represent as contrary to the law of Moses. Cases about marriage have been numerous, and sometimes perplexed; made so, not by the law of God, but by the lusts and follies of men; and often people fix what they will do, before they ask for advice. Jesus replied by asking whether they had not read the account of the creation, and the first example of marriage; thus pointing out that every departure therefrom was wrong. That condition is best for us, and to be chosen and kept to accordingly, which is best for our souls, and tends most to prepare us for, and preserve us to, the kingdom of heaven. When the gospel is really embraced, it makes men kind relatives and faithful friends; it teaches them to bear the burdens, and to bear with the infirmities of those with whom they are connected, to consider their peace and happiness more than their own. As to ungodly persons, it is proper that they should be restrained by laws, from breaking the peace of society. And we learn that the married state should be entered upon with great seriousness and earnest prayer.
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