And that statement is nonsense. We know enough about our bodies and the universe around us to say all kinds of things. We don't physically need to measure the sun to know how far away it is, we also don't need to die to understand what dying is. Everything that has ever died has had one particular organ failure: the brain.

All of us were dead for billions of years. Yes, for as long as the universe has been around, you were "dead". That state of being does not change simply because "you" go from a state of being a sort of "pre-nonentity" to life then to "post-nonentity". ( although after you die, you leave behind a body so you are technically an entity )

Where is the doubt? What else could possibly be going on? You have no answer.

Mystery solved.

Not all the details, but we got the big picture.

If you are honest to the facts and not a skeptic for skepticism's sake then you can see the big picture.

Rofl. We have nowhere NEAR the fucking big picture, I can't believe you're being serious.

Just as benthere, he has a B.S. in Physics.

I am dead serious. I don't think there will be any radical discovery that will completely alter our understanding of what is going on here. 11 dimensions or 9, P branes or M branes, w/e. It isn't going to impact life here on Earth.

Understanding of reality =/= practical use.



This post was edited by Voyaging on May 12 2012 07:10pm

Now don't be grumpy lil buddy.

I'm just showing that what you said made no sense.

No I know. What I'm getting at is there is a sense there's something beyond your current state of being without having a shred of evidence to indicate this is true. Ben and tric explained it better than me saying to be agnostic about it.

We don't know for sure, therefore something happening after death is less likely than having nothing (your consciousness goes with your brain).



I'm totally using this as a counterargument to people against liberal arts degrees. "I heard about a guy with a degree in physics and a masters in electrical engineering but is stuck working not relating to his field of study. He's working some shitty job programming....boring as fuck."

The vast majority of engineering majors get jobs in their field. Even his job could be considered applicable to his field of study.

Programming finance software is a far cry from electrical engineering.

ps. "engineering" is the most abused term of the 21st century.

This post was edited by taekvideo on May 12 2012 07:41pm