When did they say that they would "wipe you out" even Ron Paul acknowledges that they never said "wipe of the map", you are buying the war-propaganda if you believe that.
"The Imam said: the regime occupying Jerusalem must vanish from the page of time" not must be wiped off the map.
And by vanish by page of time means exactly what happened to the Soviet union, they were not physically wiped off the map but the goverment was illegitimate and in the end the Soviet union collapsed - vanished from the page of time.

No, thats the zionist propaganda you've been listening to your entire life, poisoning your mind and making you think as a fear obsessed mental midget who has zero empathy for real human beings, unable to understand the complex motivations of global forces. In short, your collective delusion.
Iran wants Nukes for the same reason Israel wanted nukes back when it got them- out of a sense of self preservation and MAD. Iran has seen the great success the DPRK got doing exactly the same thing, now they're going to join the club.
When Iran gets the bomb, it will never, ever use it. Because exactly like the Cold War, the only self-serving usage is non-usage, because of the overwhelming retaliation.
Iran does not have the capability to get "enough nukes to destroy Israel", and even if it did, it would not knock the retaliatory Israeli nukes out of the air; it would be suicide.

Israel and Iran are far more alike than you think; they are both fear driven societies attempting to fight for their own protection against foreign forces that, in their minds, are dedicated to wiping them off the map.
And its perfectly understandable, to have those irrational fears, collectively, as even through understanding of the opponents fear-driven motivation, does not diminish their threat. A circular reasoning of sorts.


Get this through your thick skull. Iran is a country inhabitated by humans. Human beings. Two arms, two legs, heart, brain, penis or cunt. They are 99.9999% identical to you. They have the same motivations, same desires, same fears, same weaknesses, same capacity for hate.
They are not bloodthirsty inhuman savages, driven by their evil religion to have no purpose in life other than to destroy you and eat your eyes for jujubes. They are not two dimensional cardboard cutouts.
They are, however, equally flawed as you are, and have that same irrational fear and capacity to think that *you* have no purpose in life except to kill them, driven by your evil judaism to slaughter all arabs.



There have been sanctions on Iran for 33 years.
Oh, and Iran never said they would "wipe Israel off the map". Thats propaganda from zionists, not a real quote.

This post was edited by Goomshill on Mar 11 2012 10:31am

Goomshill, You are blinded and a fool. It's true the war between Isrealis and Arabs is the fault of both, it's war and it takes two to tango. But Isreal's goal is self preservation while The arab's goals, primarily muslim Iran is to wipe out the infidels. Muslims have a profound track record of currently being the most intolerent people on the planet. They want to kill jews because their perverse religion of Islam is interpreted that way by it's current leaders. Iran won't be allowed to get a nuke because teh current leaders of Islam in that country are batshit crazy. You deny all these things because you're probably muslim yourself and are just as brainwashed as any isreali or any other religous zealot. You are the epitome of why religion is evil. You deny anythign that makes Iran look slighty bad and worship anything to make isreal look bad. You are a a mindless puppet.

And to refute your bullshit that Iran just want to defend itself... here are soem things you'll just deny becasue you are a mindless brainwashed puppet.


These are all quotes from Mahmoud Ahmadinejad, the President of Iran.


"You should know that the criminal and terrorist Zionist regime which has 60 years of plundering, aggression and crimes in its file has reached the end of its work and will soon disappear off the geographical scene."

"They say it is not possible to have a world without the United States and Zionism. But you know that this is a possible goal and slogan."

“Some European countries insist on saying that during World War II, Hitler burned millions of Jews and put them in concentration camps. Any historian, commentator or scientist who doubts that is taken to prison or gets condemned. Although we don't accept this claim [of the holocaust], if we suppose it is true... If the Europeans are honest they should give some of their provinces in Europe – like in Germany, Austria or other countries – to the Zionists and the Zionists can establish their state in Europe. You offer part of Europe and we will
support it."

“The Zionist regime will be wiped out soon the same way the Soviet Union was, and humanity will achieve freedom”

"Those who think they can revive the stinking corpse of the usurping and fake Israeli regime by throwing a birthday party are seriously mistaken. Today the reason for the Zionist regime's existence is questioned, and this regime is on its way to annihilation."

"The [Zionist] regime resembles an airplane that has lost its engine and is kind of going down. And no one can help it," he said. “This will benefit everyone.”

I would like to declare that the idea of "smaller Israel" is also dead. The very notion of Israel is dead, but they are lagging behind the times. Just like the idea of Greater Israel died 30 years ago, and they did not realize this, and have continued to perpetrate crimes for 30 years... Today, I say to them: The idea of smaller Israel is dead.

"Today the Zionists dominate many of the world's centers of power, wealth, and media. Unfortunately, they have ensnared many politicians and parties, and they are plundering the wealth and assets of nations in this way, depriving peoples of their freedoms and destroying their cultures and human values by spreading their nexus of corruption."

"This entity [Israel] can be compared to a kidney transplanted in a body that rejected it. “Yes it will collapse and its end will be near.”

True , its not a real quote and i'm sorry for that one. Its just the feeling we have in here.
You say propaganda.. Well.. i don't really know what answer to give you since everything i'll write will be based on my leaders (Propaganda ?) and on websites (Biased ?). We will never get understanding in this issue.
I never blamed Iran people in that situation, only their leaders. You think we don't realize that they are humans ? I find it very funny, sorry.
The only thing Israel has "Advantage" over western countries is in the understanding of Arab/Muslim countries mentality. Damn, i'm living with 1.5 million Arabs ! My father employ's 20 Arabs at our family Farm !
We have a saying in here, which i think you should get through your thick skull while i'm digesting everything you (goomshill ) and amatsukami wrote : " A stranger will never understand".

Edit:

As i said before, my only fear is when an Iranian leader feels insecure on his thrown, he will start threat Israel in order to unite his people - same as our Muslims neighbors usually does.
If they get nukes , it will be a whole different story and this threat will get a different meaning.

This post was edited by WhiteSouned on Mar 11 2012 10:58am

If Iran is so set on killing jews why is it that Iran has been one of the more tolerant among muslim countries towards jews, why is Iran home for the second largest jewish population in the entire middle-east next after Israel?

I am not bent on supporting everything Iran does but I surely don't buy the western propaganda seeking to build public opinion in favour of war.

Not against Jews, against Zionists aka the Jewish population in Israel.

This post was edited by WhiteSouned on Mar 11 2012 11:04am

Well that I suspect largely or atleast partly lies in the palestinian issue, which is not a small matter, nevertheless the demonizing of Iran by western media is something to be viewed upon with a critical eye.



India and Pakistan already have nuclear weapons, did they send their nukes on anyone?
North Korea also have nuclear weapons, and even they have not used it, and the North's hate for the South is probably a much more severe issue than Iranian-Israel.

You want to enter a definition argument? stop trying to be naive.
"The Imam said: the regime occupying Jerusalem must vanish from the page of time" not must be wiped off the map.
The Regime Occupying Jerusalem = Israel - We are not occupying anything it is our land even in their Koran.
Vanish from the page of times = Threat of annhilation
When someone wants you Vanish he wants you NOT THERE, and the only way for the Israelis not to be there is kill them cause we aint going anywhere.

I am sorry but this thread have fallen to a new level of retardness.

You hit the nail in the head.
Hilary Clinton tried to say some of that at least year's AIPAC. She basically said to Israeli leaders: Make a peace treaty now with whatever you can get, because in the future, you might not not be able to get this much or sustain the current situation.
Israeli decision making circles are all from one generation of aging ex military men, inbred with each other and lacking a perspective wide enough to see anything other than "bigger bombs", "higher walls" etc.

Do you know the meaning of regime?
The Zionist regime = the political system, the way of ruling the people and geographic area.
It is that which he said should be wiped from the page of time.
And he is right... this racist and apartheid like regime belongs in the garbage bin of history.
The Jews in the area should stay under a new peaceful, tolerant regime that respects the rights of Palestinians as well as Jews.

This post was edited by ZingerSupreme on Mar 12 2012 01:14am