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Apr 3 2011 02:48pm
Quote (ii88 @ Apr 3 2011 03:41pm)
I think you and Torm1 are both grossly downplaying the danger of a pitbull being unleashed and aggressive so close to a young child.


:rolleyes: Which gives you the right to attack the owner because?

Quote (zeratul87 @ Apr 3 2011 03:46pm)
and i think you'r eover playing. doubt you'd take action and attack an animal with a baseball bat.

this is the internet where everything is hotter than plasma and colder than absolute zero


Hmm, I wonder what that says about human nature that everything gets so exaggerated like that? :lol:
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Quote (zeratul87 @ Apr 3 2011 08:46pm)
and i think you'r eover playing. doubt you'd take action and attack an animal with a baseball bat.

this is the internet where everything is hotter than plasma and colder than absolute zero


A fucking aggro Belgian shepherd once grabbed a kid in my old neighborhood. A girl slammed it with a metal stick from their garden until it let go. Took quite some beating.

This shit does happen, and if a dog were to grab one of my family members, I'd probably try and kill it.
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Apr 3 2011 02:56pm
Quote (balrog66 @ Apr 3 2011 03:50pm)
A fucking aggro Belgian shepherd once grabbed a kid in my old neighborhood. A girl slammed it with a metal stick from their garden until it let go. Took quite some beating.

This shit does happen, and if a dog were to grab one of my family members, I'd probably try and kill it.


yeah if it actually attacked but are you seriously going to beat a dog with a bat because it growls at you? let alone beat its owner with a bat for it growling at you?
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Apr 3 2011 02:58pm
Quote (Psycho- @ Apr 3 2011 08:56pm)
yeah if it actually attacked but are you seriously going to beat a dog with a bat because it growls at you? let alone beat its owner with a bat for it growling at you?


I wouldn't do it if it were only growling, but if the owner wouldn't leash it, I wouldn't mind threatening him.
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Quote (catkaboodle @ Apr 3 2011 12:48pm)
:rolleyes: Which gives you the right to attack the owner because?



Hmm, I wonder what that says about human nature that everything gets so exaggerated like that? :lol:


the computer screen is mightier than the sword

Quote (balrog66 @ Apr 3 2011 12:50pm)
A fucking aggro Belgian shepherd once grabbed a kid in my old neighborhood. A girl slammed it with a metal stick from their garden until it let go. Took quite some beating.

This shit does happen, and if a dog were to grab one of my family members, I'd probably try and kill it.


dude. i'd kill it without question. or beat the shit out of it till it stopped moving. but the dog growled. hardly warrants hitting it over the head with a baseball bat. and even if it did, most people would be reluctant to act on their initial impulse to do so. smashing a skull with a baseball bat is not something which is easily unseen.

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Quote (brmv @ Apr 3 2011 05:57am)
you just forgot the word "significantly" before "more dangerous"

you are forgetting that they have been bred to be fighting dogs
just as doberman pinschers have been bred to be vicious protective guard dogs
and while you might get the odd non-aggressive pitbull it is not their nature
certain traits have been honed over many generations in dog breeds
and in pitbulls one of the traits is aggressiveness
yes you will find the odd golden retriever which has been made bad by treatment
but i know which dog i would prefer to see running around off the leash

nothing against someone wanting any legal dog-breed as personal pet
but anyone who gets a pitbull as a family pet is plainly stupid
and i do applaud the efforts of law makers in many countries to eliminate dangerous dog breeds

note: if someone likes the style of bull terriers there is http://www.the-kennel-club.org.uk/services/public/breeds/standard.aspx?id=3063
(not that i would pick one of them as family dog either because they are very much one person dogs but they are mild compared to the pitbull)


This post reeks of ignorance.

Pitbulls are feared more because they are a powerful breed not necessarily because they are aggressive.
Think about it, when a pitbull bites someone it is a big deal. When a small dog bites someone nobody cares.
Attacks by small dogs are far outnumber attacks by pitbulls, yet they receive no attention in the media. They have less devastating results and far less people will go out of their way to report an incident with a small dog.

The quality of owners of all types of dogs is quite low from my experience. I own a pitbull and my dog has been attacked multiple times. Not once has it fought back. My dog has been trained to be non-aggressive and it trusts that I will handle any situation as long as I am there.

The conditioning a dog receives in one's care is more important than the breed itself. A person who claims knowledge on this subject should know this.

I would say legislation for pitbulls is not because of the breed.
It is to curb the behavior of the owners who have no business owning something they cannot control.
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Quote (balrog66 @ Apr 3 2011 03:58pm)
I wouldn't do it if it were only growling, but if the owner wouldn't leash it, I wouldn't mind threatening him.


ya see what you're saying is understandable for the situation. the other dude is trying to act like an internet badass pretending like he would beat the own and the dog even though no one was actually hurt from the dog.
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Quote (TacoBell @ Apr 3 2011 09:00pm)
This post reeks of ignorance.

Pitbulls are feared more because they are a powerful breed not necessarily because they are aggressive.
Think about it, when a pitbull bites someone it is a big deal.  When a small dog bites someone nobody cares.
Attacks by small dogs are far outnumber attacks by pitbulls, yet they receive no attention in the media.  They have less devastating results and far less people will go out of their way to report an incident with a small dog.

The quality of owners of all types of dogs is quite low from my experience.  I own a pitbull and my dog has been attacked multiple times.  Not once has it fought back.  My dog has been trained to be non-aggressive and it trusts that I will handle any situation as long as I am there.

The conditioning a dog receives in one's care is more important than the breed itself.  A person who claims knowledge on this subject should know this.

I would say legislation for pitbulls is not because of the breed. 
It is to curb the behavior of the owners who have no business owning something they cannot control.



There are racial tendencies. And the truth is that a Stafford will go for a child sooner than a lab.

I've known wonderful huskies, shepherds and the like. Big dogs aren't necessarily evil, but you always have to be watchful when there are children around, no matter what breed of dog you have.
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Apr 3 2011 03:15pm
Quote (TacoBell @ Apr 3 2011 05:00pm)
This post reeks of ignorance.

Pitbulls are feared more because they are a powerful breed not necessarily because they are aggressive.
Think about it, when a pitbull bites someone it is a big deal. When a small dog bites someone nobody cares.
Attacks by small dogs are far outnumber attacks by pitbulls, yet they receive no attention in the media. They have less devastating results and far less people will go out of their way to report an incident with a small dog.

The quality of owners of all types of dogs is quite low from my experience. I own a pitbull and my dog has been attacked multiple times. Not once has it fought back. My dog has been trained to be non-aggressive and it trusts that I will handle any situation as long as I am there.

The conditioning a dog receives in one's care is more important than the breed itself. A person who claims knowledge on this subject should know this.

I would say legislation for pitbulls is not because of the breed.
It is to curb the behavior of the owners who have no business owning something they cannot control.


/claps

Breed specific legislation is the states/country way of being as lazy as can be but appearing to be doing something.
Instead of addressing the issue, the dumbass dog owners, they ban the breed.
Problem with that is the dumbass dog owner will find another breed to be a dumbass with.
Most people don't realize but a chow chow or shepard is more likely to attack a person than a pitbull.

Quote (balrog66 @ Apr 3 2011 05:02pm)
There are racial tendencies. And the truth is that a Stafford will go for a child sooner than a lab.


What truth is this? because pitbulls do not have a natural aggression towards humans unless their owners didn't train the dog correctly.
The truth of the matter is that the majority of pitbulls are fine, otherwise they'd be all over the news.
Instead you get these rare sensational stories where the media completely blows it out of proportion and uses completely flawed statistics to place the blame on.
Had you said the truth is that a untrained stafford will go for another dog sooner than a lab, then you would've been closer to the truth due to the breeding of the dog.

This post was edited by Arsenic_Touch on Apr 3 2011 03:16pm
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Apr 3 2011 03:18pm
Quote (Psycho- @ Apr 3 2011 05:02pm)
ya see what you're saying is understandable for the situation. the other dude is trying to act like an internet badass pretending like he would beat the own and the dog even though no one was actually hurt from the dog.


I assume this is directed toward me. I actually thought we were having an intelligent debate, but now I realize you don't even care about the dog, or the child, but rather you just want to attack my character.
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