Well that's your fault for using that fail site. It means in this thread.

Also, this argument is really useless, you two have different views on the world/philosophy.

you dont' have to claim to be a christian according to the what i've read. it's INNATE FFS

when you type as fast as i do then perhaps you can critique my grammar.

I was a Christian for a while, so I still know a lot of the "right answers" or "right advice" to give to people who are seeking it. Just because I don't believe it myself doesn't mean I shouldn't help people if I'm able to, IMO.


What makes you think that belief in God is imprinted on our brains? When we're born, we're pretty much clean slates. We literally know nothing but what we observe. Once we start asking questions, the simplest answer to "Who/What/Where/When/Why is/does/was/will be X?" is that a supernatural being is behind it. This answer can satisfy without leading to any further questions. Just because it's the simplest answer to understand doesn't make it the correct one (note that Occam's Razor states that the simplest answer is probably right unless a more complicated answer provides more explanatory power, and it's pretty clear that "God" is a cop-out answer with no actual explanatory power).


Yeah, I've studied quantum mechanics. I've got a physics degree, after all But why must the fact that the universe is infinite in nature and that the realm of possible knowledge is likewise infinite lead to a conclusion that God exists?

But like I said, I'm open to the existence of God, I just don't see any reason to believe in him. You can say I'm not an atheist if you like, but seeing as I have no belief in God, I'm an atheist.

So because we have an innate predisposition to believing in any form of god then that means that we don't have to put thought into any religion that is theistic in order to be a true adherent of that religion?

"When you type as fast as I do then perhaps you can use blatantly wrong grammar." Good to know.

cool man i respect and admire that.



i've read quite a bit on neurochemistry and it's a very common viewpoint within the academic community that we are born with this "god part of the brain" (good book btw). atheists argue it all the time in fact (dawkins, hitchensn), which is why i tend to bring it up when debating with agnostics and atheists. i can go into greater detail as to this implication but its presented much better from famous atheistic authors.



it does not. but it does create quite a conundrum. belief in something that has always been (space dust) that has shaped the crunch and subsequent expansion of the universe. or a supernatural power which has always existed and facilitated it's development. either way you're putting faith into something which has just always been (god or dust your choice)



and you can say you don't believe in god and are an atheist if you like

that brings up an important point.

catholics believe in a god that condemns people according to their specific belief in god. for instance muslims, jews, buddhists, mormons are all going to hell becuase of their interpretation of "god".

i however do not blieve this. i believe in a god who can consider consequence and takes into account where and when someone is born before condemning them to "hell"

This post was edited by zeratul87 on Jan 22 2011 07:15pm

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Jews also believe in the same system(They do in the bible, I don't care if modern Jews don't, their bible, and thus their Religion, does). Mormons do also, to a point, same with muslims. Buddhists don't, only ones on the list who don't.

yup. very close minded views imo.