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Oct 3 2009 12:28pm
Quote (AiNedeSpelCzech @ Sat, Oct 3 2009, 05:32pm)
no

the West has never, in any way, helped Africa at all.  And we've left them in the horrible shambles they're in today, give or take a few environmental factors.


Now you're letting your hate get to you. White guilt is bad for health, brah.
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Oct 3 2009 12:29pm
Quote (AiNedeSpelCzech @ Sat, Oct 3 2009, 05:32pm)
no

the West has never, in any way, helped Africa at all.  And we've left them in the horrible shambles they're in today, give or take a few environmental factors.


What do you mean we haven't helped them, do you deny the fact that the we have numerous charities (including the largest on the planet) which is solely the product of the West and capitalism?
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Oct 3 2009 12:38pm
Quote (HEIDTB @ Fri, Oct 2 2009, 08:16pm)

Black Americans make about 56% of white Americans


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Oct 3 2009 06:44pm
Quote (HEIDTB @ Fri, 2 Oct 2009, 12:19)
well slavery existed in Africa just as strong as America at one point (still some exist today) so either way wasnt it the better option to have slavery in America in the long run?


The slavery practiced in Africa isn't really comparable to chattel slavery practiced in the Americas
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Oct 3 2009 06:47pm
Quote (Kamahl16 @ Sat, 3 Oct 2009, 11:29)
What do you mean we haven't helped them, do you deny the fact that the we have numerous charities (including the largest on the planet) which is solely the product of the West and capitalism?


all right, to be fair, we've somewhat mitigated parts of the worst shit we did to them while fucking them over in other ways
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Oct 3 2009 10:20pm
The American racism against blacks at one point was much worse than most other countries observed. I can't agree with the statement that "our racism helped free them" if you try to compare it to sexism against women in our country, and how we "freed women from their daily care-giving tasks" it sounds very ignorant.
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Oct 3 2009 10:30pm
wow thanks for reading and understanding what i have said

oh just in case, that was sarcasm i was lying about you understanding what i was talking about and all

i hope u can understand that

dont bring shit like

x=y then b=a comparisons and shit here
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Oct 3 2009 10:33pm
Quote (HEIDTB @ Sat, 3 Oct 2009, 21:30)
wow thanks for reading and understanding what i have said

oh just in case, that was sarcasm i was lying about you understanding what i was talking about and all

i hope u can understand that

dont bring shit like

x=y then b=a comparisons and shit here


It's just ridiculously stupid, that's all.

Slavery was flat-out evil toward Blacks, period. There's no bright spot. The fact that there are many black people who (after centuries of servitude and another slavery of even more servitude and lynchings and bullshit and even today still having to face massive bigotry) are able to overcome all of the parenthesized and live a pretty decent life doesn't reflect well on the instution of slavery at all.

If we hadn't been dicking with Africa, fucking all their people in the ass and stealing their countries, then they would almost certainly be better off. In the sense that they would be completely different people since their parents never would have met in most cases, ofc.
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Oct 3 2009 10:34pm
Quote (AiNedeSpelCzech @ Sun, Oct 4 2009, 04:33am)
It's just ridiculously stupid, that's all.

Slavery was flat-out evil toward Blacks, period. There's no bright spot. The fact that there are many black people who (after centuries of servitude and another slavery of even more servitude and lynchings and bullshit and even today still having to face massive bigotry) are able to overcome all of the parenthesized and live a pretty decent life doesn't reflect well on the instution of slavery at all.

If we hadn't been dicking with Africa, fucking all their people in the ass and stealing their countries, then they would almost certainly be better off. In the sense that they would be completely different people since their parents never would have met in most cases, ofc.


Am i making an arguement that slavery is evil or not?

NO

am i making an arguement that slavery was a benefit to current americans comparing them to the current africans?

YES

get it right

and just so you know, europe carved africa either way

This post was edited by HEIDTB on Oct 3 2009 10:34pm
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Oct 3 2009 10:36pm
Quote (HEIDTB @ Sat, 3 Oct 2009, 21:34)
Am i making an arguement that slavery is evil or not?

NO

am i making an arguement that slavery was a benefit to current americans comparing them to the current africans?

YES

get it right

and just so you know, europe carved africa either way


oh yes, and America didn't have any African colonies at all and wasn't part of the triangular slave trade which fueled colonization, my mistake.

El oh fucking el.

Basically, you're tremendously ignorant for thinking that an incredibly slim amount of 'benefit' that is arguably not even an actual benefit compared to leaving them alone should ever even remotely come up as a topic in a history class.
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