So, you use it for research. Not coding.

That's because you don't know how to use these tools correctly. Skilled engineers have to do repetitive tasks too, you don't spend 100% of your time doing novel work at any company

A good example is that companies have to upgrade dependencies every year to keep up to date with security and compliance. This means upgrading thousands of code packages (big tech literally owns billions of lines of code) which means many thousands of humans used to have to do this repetitive task. You don't hire people just to do stuff like this, you ask expensive engineers to spend X% of their time on it

AI can upgrade these packages and test to ensure they compile, and then a human reviews and approves the code. Saving many thousands of hours. That means the company needs fewer total engineers. Maybe they hire 5k engineers in a year instead of 10k

Big detail that not many notice is that Republicans are actually ramping up taxes on all Americans.

Their increase of the budget deficit and the exponential increase of the national debt is going to make all Americans pay more someday.

That's right, a good engineer can do the work of 3 mediocre engineers.

Those ones will have to learn some employable skills to adapt to the new reality, like the old textile mill workers had to do. Perhaps learn to work on an oil rig?

It's too bad you can pay a software dev in India 10/hr and get the same quality of work as you would paying an engineer 150/hr

A kid who graduates with a bachelors/masters in computer science from any accredited university will not be as good as the Indian counterpart with zero formal education.

I worked for Caterpillar in software logistics and for Ford in product development and AI has long since been implemented going back decades the term "artificial intelligence" just gets "new meanings" added on when in actuality the full Trillion lines of code is already written and therefore in a time frame no one can contemplate AI will replace people in such the way a careless drunkard pirate swings his sword for gold and glory. That's AI. A super intelligent dangerous super pirate to which you have no idea the next move it will make.

Stephen Hawking cautioned humanity on this very thing. Where AI can theoretically superimpose or imbed itself into our existing technological infrastructure without us knowing of it and then start causing massive disruptions. This also plays into the hand of the people who think were all useless eaters and should die soon. The planet is in literal free fall and people are still walking around as if it's all good. It's not. Anyone who is remotely in touch with their inner nature rejects AI/Tech as poison because ultimately that's the utility produced from such a sick and sinister product.

People worship AI and technology and it's honestly so mundane and pathetic I don't know how people continue to live their life like that. Need your phone with you every second of the day. Can't formulate real meaningful relationships in real life because tech cucked you into total debauchery and foolishness.

I unplugged from technology for years and by God it was the best thing I've ever done. Can't believe everyone is so bought into a cashless society with infinite choices but zero real freedom.

The absolute dumbest people are the ones who think America shouldn't utilize cheap labor the same way China enslaves Ughur muslims or how Indians use the caste system to make people work for nothing. No country on Earth can compete with that and meanwhile most people have a Chinese made Apple phone wearing Nike's made in a Nike slave factory but this is reality. My mentor who was from southern India told me that the people in his village would work for a PENNY an hour because it's more then nothing. You can't say pay me 250k a year when 6 Indians will take a 40k a year salary and get 10x as much done.

This is why the US and India made the deal they did because India will do just about anything to leap frog China in the world power rankings. "Oh China doesn't want to be fair"-----Insert India, "We'll do everything that China was doing for you and for cheaper".

AI is a tool for people in the 1st world and it has yet to fruit anything useful for those at the lowest rungs of society. Crazy right and people think life's getting easier and the grass will be greener on the other side. It won't. Slowly but surely that is what is setting in on all human consciousness. Holy shit guys some of our fellow men tried to become like God and now were in the Atlantean dilemma again and going to physically and spiritually degrade ourselves to a lower vibrational existence.

Break free from it if you can because it's already lulled more then half the world into a lazy complacency that benefits none.

Look at how problems in the 1st world aren't actually even considered "real problems" to 99% of the rest of the planet. Only in America and other 1st world nations can you bitch about issues while in that same breathe a little kid in Ethiopia is taking his last breath because Elon Musk cares more about Mars then he does the continent he was born on. People with absurd wealth stroking their own cocks and launching rockets costing billions when they could dump rice and clean water on every 3rd world shithole.

Always be human and be compassionate. When the AI has enslaved and encased everything around you in what philosophers call the "8th Sphere" it will be up to you to remain human.

AI has worsened this by the way because it has allowed people who were immensely wealthy and owned all the land on Earth and were behind the inception of most mega corporations we see to capitalize on what no "blue collar" person could never theoretically invest in because they were "poor" by birth. The Rothschild & Rockefeller types want AI because it secures their total dominion over the planet.

Jeff Bezos, Elon Musk, Mark Zuckerberg, Bill Gates, Sergei Brin, Larry Page are all DARPA puppets. DARPA cucks. DARPA front men. Hey look at this shiny tech while I meta mine your whole family so we can get even more creepy control over your physical body.

Can't have my soul though Bill and since you don't have one you'll continue to try and suck the souls out of every living entity around you. I'll see them in hell for sure. Purgatory. But I'll know I never stooped as low as they did and I won't be sucking the devils dick like they did either. It's really unfathomable what they are doing and getting away with but at the end of line there's something much more frightening then all their DARPA experiments could ever inceptualize. The divinity within the human body has the capacity always to transcend even their darkest manifestations because they are the rejected ones and you are the protected ones. AI simply can't compute things like unconditional love or forgiveness but a group of intelligent programmers can create something that gives us all the illusion it contains those feelings. It does not and all the sci-fi movies where the robot is your best friend is a crock of shit too.

I tell people to unplug from technology but like a degenerate gambler they double down again and again.

Better to meditate on total nothingness then to ever haven turned on the internet. Now most people can't get away from it if they tried and all they feel is nothingness.

Logic is a powerful drug eh lads

This post was edited by SwamiVivekananda on Jul 13 2025 07:04pm

Counterpoint as someone who had to clear up projects by cheap indian dev teams:

1. The work is shit
2. Nobody feels responsible for their shit work
3. People who claim formal education is worthless without fail have no formal education
4. If indian devs would do better work for 6% of the price, nobody in a capitalist system would hire non indian devs
5. Wtf is the rest of your post. Try to order your thoughts and make a coherent point

To be more preicse:
The coding of the projects was fine, the indian dev teams just did not understand the problem they were supposed to solve at all. I.e. they were very good at the thing each 9 year old can now do with AI and terrible at understanding things so whatever they coded made actual sense.

This post was edited by SkySwallower on Jul 14 2025 07:03am

In the chemical analysis industry, all this stuff is also generally true for Indians. Their work is bad, they don't give a single shit and have no inclination to improve or do a good job, and they never understand what the goal is, either due to ESL problems or simply not caring enough to even try to understand.

Probably a cultural thing - white people have a natural, call it cultural or intrinsic, drive to improve and do a good job. We feel shame if we don't, they don't feel shame at all.

This post was edited by El1te on Jul 14 2025 07:39am

Foolish to say when Indians are the richest ethnicity in the country per capita and every Indian I know is a doctor, engineer, or IT worker making 150k minimum. They all speak great English. They pay taxes(more so then everyone else look at the math) but I'm talking about the ones who come on a work visa not the illiterate slave class they started shipping into Canada of recent.

Hindus are a different type of people and their whole ethos is different from "white people".

Like I said they will work for less then you and give them a decade in the US and they will be "Americanized" because they don't have the same freedoms in India.

The average American like yourselves pulling 80k+ should not be bitching about a single thing in your life. Your whole life is a total privlege while these slaves cant afford a bowl of rice.

Check yourself before you wreck yourself has more to do with you understanding, "If you had to go to India because it was your only shot at freedom would you not attempt to learn the language and go through the same hurdles they do" or would you be miserably lazy and just bitch about it.

The world wants solutions and the work to get done but they want to sit in their ivory tower with a golden spoon up their ass and bitch and wine like you guys are.

By the way I'm Scandinavian not Indian so my opinion isn't biased like yours because I've talked for countless hours with Indians from every country on multiple continents. Yours is based on the dude at work who smells bad and doesn't do as much as you. Trust me there's an Indian doing 100x what you are and they aren't bitching and moaning their life in a 1st world country is so bad.

1st world countries are the only ones who have time to think about "wider ranging issues" the rest of the world like I said is just trying to get through the day.

So funny the shit political banter on this sub forum. People can't walk in other peoples shoes. Would love to see either of you go to Mumbai and attempt to assimilate to their culture.

Could you imagine what they'd say about you. NOTHING. Because an Indian would never make you feel bad for not knowing their language or understanding their culture. The opposite of what all the Abrahamic folk do who claim their Jesus people right a little closet racism out of you makes me question your morality. Guess Catholics and Christians are different in that respect. Wonder what Jesus would say to you. Maybe "get over it" or "try harder" or "be better" or "cry less".

This post was edited by SwamiVivekananda on Jul 14 2025 08:03am

- I am not saying that Indians do not deserve a better life, I am saying that their work is oftentimes as bad as the price is low.

- You know the Indians with high paying jobs because those are the Indians allowed to emigrate from India I would assume.

- As a last sidenote, the terrible image of indian and chinese students in european universities is not coincidence. Not all of them are terribly rude people with no concern for their pupils, but enough of them are for it to be a pattern. Same with african refugees being violent, especially against women.