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Feb 21 2025 02:40pm
If we're talking about political theory. Marx and Engels never mentioned a transgender person as far as I remember.


Referencing my above post on poststructuralism.
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Feb 21 2025 02:43pm
Right, they are forced to abandon their hard left positions. Because like I said, we just finished going through and burying that hard left swing.


If you think hard left positions only exist in gender, sex, and race you're very naive.

have you ever heard of a thing called communism? maybe her slightly more approachable cousin socialism? neither of these extremely left wing cuties care about your race, gender, or sex. they just want to know if you can provide for them and keep them safe.
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If you think hard left positions only exist in gender, sex, and race you're very naive.

have you ever heard of a thing called communism? maybe her slightly more approachable cousin socialism? neither of these extremely left wing cuties care about your race, gender, or sex. they just want to know if you can provide for them and keep them safe.


If you think hard left positions are entirely economic then it is you who is naive.

See my posts regarding poststructuralism.
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If you think hard left positions only exist in gender, sex, and race you're very naive.

have you ever heard of a thing called communism? maybe her slightly more approachable cousin socialism? neither of these extremely left wing cuties care about your race, gender, or sex. they just want to know if you can provide for them and keep them safe.


Let's expand on my previous post a bit.

Myself: I believe in free healthcare, and free university education, paid for by the state.

WAIT you'll say, this makes me left wing right?

Absolutely wrong. In order to have free healthcare and free education, what is first required is a lean, efficient, and wealthy population from which to draw the required tax revenue (this stuff is very expensive). That means reducing or eliminating inefficiencies. Examples of inefficiencies include obese people (massive avoidable drain on healthcare), bad behaviour in schools (massive drain on the education of the well behaved kids), racial pluralism, subjects in university that are not grounded in reality (gender studies etc., use your imagination here). These beliefs get me labelled as a Nazi, not far left.

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I strongly disagree, we have very different definitions of "left". What appears as normal to you, appears as radical hard left to me. What appears as normal to me, appears as radical hard right to you.

Left isn't just economic policy, it is worldview lens. In this case, you are holding a poststructuralist position, where you have deconstructed the reality of sex. Poststructuralism is a derivation of Critical Theory, which was formulated by Marx. Hard left by definition very clearly


There could be some parallels but my brain is a bit foggy when it comes to the philosophy of poststructalism. The point I'm trying to make is this.

Transgender rights: under the political spectrum if we're going to use it. They fall under libertarian ideology. The idea that a person should be able to do what they want with themselves, believe what they want, even if it goes against the status quo as long as it brings no physical harm to others. I think if we accept transgender people as a reality.

For this reason I have no issue with transgender people. I believe they have the right to express themselves how they feel. I might find some of the things they say or do off-putting at times. I may disagree with them at times. But I would never do something to reject their rights of expression.

In the same way I cannot force others to believe in my God. I cannot force others to follow the gender binary.
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There could be some parallels but my brain is a bit foggy when it comes to the philosophy of poststructalism. The point I'm trying to make is this.

Transgender rights: under the political spectrum if we're going to use it. They fall under libertarian ideology. The idea that a person should be able to do what they want with themselves, believe what they want, even if it goes against the status quo as long as it brings no physical harm to others. I think if we accept transgender people as a reality.

For this reason I have no issue with transgender people. I believe they have the right to express themselves how they feel. I might find some of the things they say or do off-putting at times. I may disagree with them at times. But I would never do something to reject their rights of expression.

In the same way I cannot force others to believe in my God. I cannot force others to follow the gender binary.


My point is that believing in the very existence of transgender people is a poststructuralist position. A structuralist position (right wing) designates transgenderism as a mental illness.

Therefore, a belief in transgender rights, in the context of minority rights for immutable characteristics such as skin colour, is a poststructuralist position by definition, even if you don't have a strong grasp of what that actually means.

I also believe that they do absolutely have the right to express themselves as I believe that right is universal. However I don't believe they have the right to invade/enter spaces that are set apart for the opposite sex, because I hold the structuralist position that sex is real, immutable, and defined by empirically measurable phenomena (physics, chemistry & biology).

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Referencing my above post on poststructuralism.


What you have to understand is the European buy-in to the progressive stack. Communism at the bottom, socialism at the top. Knock it over on it's side, and you have their worldview: Communism is far left, socialism is far right. Except there's an added element. If you're for global government, that too is far left, where populism/nationalism (aka the government of a nation being by and for the people of THAT nation) is ALSO far right.

So, to them, the Nazi's were far right. Where to the average American, the USSR, Nazis, Fascists (Mussolini's Italy), CCP, Viet Kong, etc. are ALL far left.

Where do you think the saying, "They think anything to the right of Mao is far right" came from?
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Feb 21 2025 02:58pm
If you think hard left positions are entirely economic then it is you who is naive.


I don't.

Let's expand on my previous post a bit.

Myself: I believe in free healthcare, and free university education, paid for by the state.

WAIT you'll say, this makes me left wing right?

Absolutely wrong. In order to have free healthcare and free education, what is first required is a lean, efficient, and wealthy population from which to draw the required tax revenue (this stuff is very expensive). That means reducing or eliminating inefficiencies. Examples of inefficiencies include obese people (massive avoidable drain on healthcare), bad behaviour in schools (massive drain on the education of the well behaved kids), racial pluralism, subjects in university that are not grounded in reality (gender studies etc., use your imagination here). These beliefs get me labelled as a Nazi, not far left.


this is the sort of things canadians say a lot and if you apply math to the population and demographic differences between the US and Canada the picture is pretty clear. in canada its hard but possible to uphold this type of standard and keep social programs with a conservative backbone. in the USA it's not.

this post doesnt make you a nazi, or hard left, it makes you canadian.
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Feb 21 2025 03:02pm
Let's expand on my previous post a bit.

Myself: I believe in free healthcare, and free university education, paid for by the state.

WAIT you'll say, this makes me left wing right?

Absolutely wrong. In order to have free healthcare and free education, what is first required is a lean, efficient, and wealthy population from which to draw the required tax revenue (this stuff is very expensive). That means reducing or eliminating inefficiencies. Examples of inefficiencies include obese people (massive avoidable drain on healthcare), bad behaviour in schools (massive drain on the education of the well behaved kids), racial pluralism, subjects in university that are not grounded in reality (gender studies etc., use your imagination here). These beliefs get me labelled as a Nazi, not far left.


Except healthcare and education are both primarily funded by the class majority, not the minority. If you're talking about the average (a dime a dozen millionaire) wealthy, sure they pay more but they also own more. If we're talking about the ultra wealthy. They pay nothing. They do not contribute to the system in the same way we do.

I think ultimately the problem isn't the concept of universal healthcare and education. It's the manner in which we implement it under our economic and political system.
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Feb 21 2025 03:04pm
There could be some parallels but my brain is a bit foggy when it comes to the philosophy of poststructalism. The point I'm trying to make is this.

Transgender rights: under the political spectrum if we're going to use it. They fall under libertarian ideology. The idea that a person should be able to do what they want with themselves, believe what they want, even if it goes against the status quo as long as it brings no physical harm to others. I think if we accept transgender people as a reality.

For this reason I have no issue with transgender people. I believe they have the right to express themselves how they feel. I might find some of the things they say or do off-putting at times. I may disagree with them at times. But I would never do something to reject their rights of expression.

In the same way I cannot force others to believe in my God. I cannot force others to follow the gender binary.


Brainwashing children into trans ideology, isn't a part of Libertarian Ideology, it violates the most basic property rights, and violates the NAP.
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