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Dec 16 2024 12:22pm
Quote (thesnipa @ Dec 16 2024 06:05pm)
literally no one is claiming the health insurers are operating illegally. they're saying they should run their business differently, or failing that as its a high bar in a stock selling company, that law makers should adjust the law to reduce their profit by force.

you said people should stop paying for health insurance if they dont like how health insurance works, which is a really dumb statement. u can add 12 edits it wont change how dumb that idea is as a concept let alone when it's applied to health insurance.


You tried calling me out, In a way that was irrelevant to the information I was trying to convey.
e- the information you originally quoted.

If you wanted to change the direction, start by not quoting something entirely unrelated to that in which you desire.
e3- If you really can't understand that you quoted me, then tried to twist what I said. Then there is no hope for our debate.
Just return to your echo chamber where it's comfortable. Typical communist behavior, repping the sickle.

e2- I edit my posts a lot, I don't hide or change them.
The edit feature is fully accessible to all forum users.
The fact that I make use of it is not something to throw in my face, you can do the same.

Quote (Stauf @ Dec 16 2024 06:06pm)
He is a professional pontificator, pay no mind


I can't argue with that.

This post was edited by Mondain on Dec 16 2024 12:25pm
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Dec 16 2024 12:33pm
Quote (Mondain @ Dec 15 2024 09:00pm)
Is he justified in what he did?
No

Murder and violence is entirely unacceptable.
There is a legal way to make change.

Violence is NEVER the answer.


Nice, now all these gun nuts can shut up about how they are going to be saved from tyranny, or home invaders or whatever other nonsense they are terrified of today.
Might as well start banning them all.
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Dec 16 2024 12:35pm
Quote (Plaguefear @ Dec 16 2024 06:33pm)
Nice, now all these gun nuts can shut up about how they are going to be saved from tyranny, or home invaders or whatever other nonsense they are terrified of today.
Might as well start banning them all.


Wasn't the firearm used in the crime a """ghost""" gun?
3d printed people speculated on.
e- please correct me if i'm wrong.

Doesn't help to attack legal firearm owners over that imo,
but the left never misses a chance to gun grab.

This post was edited by Mondain on Dec 16 2024 12:36pm
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Dec 16 2024 12:37pm
Quote (RedFromWinter @ Dec 16 2024 12:04pm)
As much as Jan 6 was an insurrection. Barely meets the base prerequisite of the broad def.


Well no. A terrorist attack is deadly violence motivated by a social/political/religious agenda. An insurrection is at attempt to seize control of a government. Folks on January 6th didn't try to take over the actual operations of government, they were just aimless rioters who milled around in the capitol and left, most of them were just looky loos and taking selfies, and some of the people who had weapons purposefully held them back

Its a measure of intent and motive in both cases, not effectiveness. Willem van Spronsen was an Antifa terrorist who tried to blow up a building and shoot police but the only person he got killed was himself. Still a clear example of a terrorist. Rioters trying to delay certification of an election don't really rise to the motivation of a real coup attempt
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Dec 16 2024 12:45pm
Quote (Mondain @ Dec 17 2024 05:35am)
Wasn't the firearm used in the crime a """ghost""" gun?
3d printed people speculated on.
e- please correct me if i'm wrong.

Doesn't help to attack legal firearm owners over that imo,
but the left never misses a chance to gun grab.


No need for them is there?
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Dec 16 2024 12:46pm
Quote (Plaguefear @ Dec 16 2024 06:45pm)
No need for them is there?


We're steering off the main topic here a bit.

I'll just say the idea is more important than the physical object.
So long as it's LAW, then it's purpose is already fulfilled.
The reality is the military could drone strike everyone it desires.

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e- to steer this back towards the main topic.
Liugi Mangione could have used any weapon,
knife, acid, vehicle, a pencil.
That part doesn't matter.

What matters is Liugi Mangione was filmed at 6am in NYC murdering someone.
He's guilty, lock him up or death row.

However, Everyone guilty or not guilty is allowed their fair trial under the LAW.

This post was edited by Mondain on Dec 16 2024 12:48pm
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Dec 16 2024 12:58pm
Quote (Mondain @ Dec 16 2024 12:22pm)
You tried calling me out, In a way that was irrelevant to the information I was trying to convey.
e- the information you originally quoted.

If you wanted to change the direction, start by not quoting something entirely unrelated to that in which you desire.
e3- If you really can't understand that you quoted me, then tried to twist what I said. Then there is no hope for our debate.
Just return to your echo chamber where it's comfortable. Typical communist behavior, repping the sickle.

e2- I edit my posts a lot, I don't hide or change them.
The edit feature is fully accessible to all forum users.
The fact that I make use of it is not something to throw in my face, you can do the same.



I can't argue with that.


you're lost.

you said:

Quote (Mondain @ Dec 16 2024 08:33am)
if people are so outraged by health insurance.
Just stop paying and cancel your health insurance.

Like with many things in a capitalistic society,
Vote With Your Wallet.

Good luck convincing enough people however,
It's easier for them to complain than actually do anything proactive.

inb4 what if, I need it, my company provides it, excuse, excuse, excuse.

You don't get a say if you continue to be their customer and agree to their terms.
You signed the paperwork, nobody force you.

e- it's like buying a piece of shit car, signing the paperwork and then being outraged when it breaks down.
Most people don't even read the paperwork or understand it, That responsibility falls on the person signing it.
You can only blame yourself.


I responded:

Quote (thesnipa @ Dec 16 2024 09:20am)
"If you buy X, Y, Z you can't criticize X, Y, Z" is terrible logic. companies want the feedback of their customers, the good the bad and the ugly.


i literally responded to your post, said its dumb to claim that if u pay for a service you shouldnt be able to criticize it. then you came back with a bunch of junk about contracts and reading.

there is no logic in the idea that the ONLY way to criticize something is by boycotting it, not that you can't criticize unless you boycott. boycotts are just one tool to criticize the action of a company.

following this logic if u dont like your government u should stop paying taxes, that's the only way to tell them, right?

This post was edited by thesnipa on Dec 16 2024 12:58pm
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Dec 16 2024 12:59pm
Quote (thesnipa @ Dec 16 2024 06:58pm)
you're lost.

you said:

You're still ignoring the very first post you quoted from me.

Please stop it if you're not going to get it straight.

e- Nice edit =-)
Makes me look dumb because you changed your post to fix that mistake.

This post was edited by Mondain on Dec 16 2024 01:05pm
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Quote (Mondain @ Dec 16 2024 12:59pm)
You're still ignoring the very first post you quoted from me.

Please stop it if you're not going to get it straight.


those are literally those posts. you're even more lost than i thought.
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Dec 16 2024 08:39pm
Quote (Goomshill @ Dec 16 2024 10:37am)
Folks on January 6th didn't try to take over the actual operations of government, they were just aimless rioters who milled around in the capitol and left, most of them were just looky loos and taking selfies, and some of the people who had weapons purposefully held them back


yeah, right? they just randomly chose Jan 6, the day the election was being certified by Congress, at the Capitol. all these good-natured, salt of the earth magadonians just aimlessly sauntered about the capital for no reason other than to take selfies, and it was all peaceful!!!!
they were taking so many peaceful selfies and looky looing so hard that a handful of people died on accident and the libtard government had to call the national guard :rofl: :rofl:


they werent chanting "hang mike pence!" they were chanting "we want to hang out with mike pence!"

stupid liberals and all their propaganda amirite goomer??

This post was edited by gnarjay on Dec 16 2024 08:40pm
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