A constitutional republic is a democratic institution, you just think tyranny of the minority is better than the majority, which makes little sense.

A Democracy is a pure tyranny of the majority. Period. End of discussion. If there are 150 million voters, and 76 million voters vote to take all the property from the other 74 million voters, then that's what happens. Democracy.

Constitutional Republic says the supreme law of the land, and the limit to all powers are based in the Constitution and it's Amendments. And the Constitution actively prevents the overwhelming majority of the excesses of "Democracy".

In a real democracy, every law, measure, office, etc. is voted on. You don't vote on a representative who then goes and votes on a law. You don't vote for an Elector who then goes and votes on a President. And even the Electoral college has been subverted AGAINST democracy, with States giving all Electoral votes to the popular winner in that State, rather than honoring the will of the various districts.

A Constitutional Republic is NOT a democratic institution. It's a shield against the excesses of democracy. Your silly talking point was old 15 years ago. Grow up.

So there is not one single democracy on earth then?
You are literally just saying "My country is corrupt and its great".


This post was edited by Plaguefear on Dec 2 2024 11:19pm

There is no single pure democracy on earth because that would be asinine. You have representative democracy in small countries and federative republics in bigger ones.
The closest to pure democracy you can get is the Swiss model.

This post was edited by babun1024 on Dec 3 2024 12:12am

No one said pure democracy.

Horrified by what? A president pardoning his drug addict son, who probably wouldn't have faced any charges if he wasn't the president's son? This isn't Steve Bannon, who ripped off Trump supporters, or Charles Kushner, who blackmailed his brother-in-law. It's a drug addict who purchased a firearm while being a drug addict, and made some mistakes on his taxes.

Bogie, you can't pretend to be outraged by meritless pardons by Biden when you didn't care at all when Trump pardoned even worse people. And I can't pretend that voters give a shit about this pardon, or the Trump pardons. Because they don't care. I wish more voters were like me and cared about things like democracy, norms, character, etc, but they don't, and it's not worth being "horrified" by things that voters don't care about.

Also, I didn't vote for Biden in 2024, and if he were the nominee I wouldn't have voted for him. I voted for Kamala Harris, and she didn't pardon anyone.

This post was edited by IceMage on Dec 3 2024 05:30am

Handcuffs/IceMage ticket going to be so strong in 2028.

"Some mistakes on his taxes"? He received $10 million+ in bribes from foreign oligarchs in a direct quid pro quo for policy intervention by the sitting vice president. Which Joe Biden delivered.
Kusher's blackmail, Hunter's crack pipe, Clinton's blowjob, Bannon's wall- these are all equally irrelevant to the running of our country and the American public. They speak to the character of a person, not the policy of an administration
Joe Biden being paid bribes to himself and his family by a Ukrainian oligarch in exchange for wielding the threat of US foreign policy to get anti-corruption prosecutors off his back- that's a serious bribery scandal, a corruption of our democracy and threat to our national security. And not an unrealized or potential threat, one that blossomed into a full scale proxy war getting hundreds of thousands of people killed, millions displaced, billions spent. All tied up with Joe Biden profiteering off the Maidan coup d'etat and taking bribes.



Its weird how you care about "character" but dance around the fact the President of the United States who you voted for and supported, lied directly and repeatedly to the public about this very point. Just baldfaced lie after lie, all because he wanted to manipulate this election
Same guy who campaigned on "No vaccine mandates" as a promise in 2020 that he reneged on, then tried to boost Kamala's campaign by promising not to pardon his son and reneged on it.



What a flimsy excuse, is Joe Biden the sin eater for the democratic party? Liberals get to embrace his legacy of warmongering, repression of civil liberties, weaponization of the DoJ, lying to the public and crashing the economy- and Joe Biden gets to absorb all the blame and Democrats turn around and insist they are still the party of "Joy"

It's sort of weird how you write all this up, knowing that I will not substantively respond, because I will not engage with a known liar like yourself. I guess you need to blow off some steam or something. Lol.