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Oct 15 2024 01:27pm
Quote (ScionCapital @ 15 Oct 2024 18:02)
Again you misunderstand the english language, catholics see protestants as heretical. They most certainly do, and protestants most certainly in the United States see catholics as papists. They considered them idolatures. I see that you are french you obviously do not understand american religious fervor. I didn't read the rest of it because the premise is false..


lol.

you watched too much movies on the Middle Age with "heretics" everywhere. It looks like you see the world as an 8 years old child with the good on one side and the evil on the other one.

never heard in my life protestants or catholics telling each others that word, at least nowadays.

we try to give you ideas to improve things but the only thing you answered to was "tldr". You want to discuss about religion but you don't want to read what people are writting to you, putting efforts in that... It's like asking i want to know how the Universe is working but i don't want to discuss about astrophysic. Honestly you're just a troll imo. In our modern society with internet you can find a lot of informations with basic keywords on google but you're not going to do that, you're not interested in investing hours and hours to research, read, compare, build your opinion... And it's what it requires to learn about Religions & History to debate.

Maybe, like you said we don't understand "american religious fervor", but IF american religious fervor is G.W Bush swearing on the Bible that he will eradicate Ben Laden and his team, or Anglicans creating subprimes and all what leads us to the actual economic system which is a non-sense, yes, we are not trying to understand...

Protestantism completely changed Christianity's approach to money by making Catholic compromise less necessary. Wealth is no longer a sin. Calvin recommends “wisdom in the use of the goods of this world” VS Saint Louis that establishes moral rules : blasphemy, prostitution, gambling, games of dice and chance, interest-bearing loans are prohibited.
I can also make "built" arguments like protestantism is based on consumerism and a life of debauchery.... But that would not be honest.

I'm not going to continue this because i think the only thing that you are trying to involve here is Hate. Even if i have a huge amount of arguments vs Protestantism, i would never disrespect a protestant or an orthodox on his faith, like i would never disrespect an animist, hindouist, bhudist or wathever else.

I don't speak your language but I took the time to answer you, even with lack of understanding like you said, which shows more respect to you from a Catholic than from a "TLDR" boy.

You have a LOT to learn.

I stop here.

May God bless you.
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Oct 15 2024 03:15pm
Quote (Red_Vex @ Oct 15 2024 02:27pm)
lol.

you watched too much movies on the Middle Age with "heretics" everywhere. It looks like you see the world as an 8 years old child with the good on one side and the evil on the other one.

never heard in my life protestants or catholics telling each others that word, at least nowadays.

we try to give you ideas to improve things but the only thing you answered to ^SwamiVivekananda was "tldr". You want to discuss about religion but you don't want to read what people are writting to you, putting efforts in that... It's like asking i want to know how the Universe is working but i don't want to discuss about astrophysic. Honestly you're just a troll imo. In our modern society with internet you can find a lot of informations with basic keywords on google but you're not going to do that, you're not interested in investing hours and hours to research, read, compare, build your opinion... And it's what it requires to learn about Religions & History to debate.

Maybe, like you said we don't understand "american religious fervor", but IF american religious fervor is G.W Bush swearing on the Bible that he will eradicate Ben Laden and his team, or Anglicans creating subprimes and all what leads us to the actual economic system which is a non-sense, yes, we are not trying to understand...

Protestantism completely changed Christianity's approach to money by making Catholic compromise less necessary. Wealth is no longer a sin. Calvin recommends “wisdom in the use of the goods of this world” VS Saint Louis that establishes moral rules : blasphemy, prostitution, gambling, games of dice and chance,interest-bearing loans are prohibited.
I can also make "built" arguments like protestantism is based on consumerism and a life of debauchery.... But that would not be honest.

I'm not going to continue this because i think the only thing that you are trying to involve here is Hate. Even if i have a huge amount of arguments vs Protestantism, i would never disrespect a protestant or an orthodox on his faith, like i would never disrespect an animist, hindouist, bhudist or wathever else.

I don't speak your language but I took the time to answer you, even with lack of understanding like you said, which shows more respect to you from a Catholic than from a "TLDR" boy.

You have a LOT to learn.

I stop here.

May God bless you.


Again this thread is not a debate thread it is a demographic poll. I'm not the least bit interested in anything other than that. So I barely read what you wrote as I have no interest in discussing this over the internet.. Good day.

This post was edited by ScionCapital on Oct 15 2024 03:15pm
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Oct 15 2024 03:24pm
Shows you are really in touch with religion when Christian and Catholic are the choices. Dear Lord.

If you want to separate Christians, the choices should be Protestant and Catholic, not Christian and Catholic. Catholics are Christians who did not depart from the historical church.

This post was edited by IceMage on Oct 15 2024 03:26pm
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Oct 15 2024 04:03pm
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Shows you are really in touch with religion when Christian and Catholic are the choices. Dear Lord.

If you want to separate Christians, the choices should be Protestant and Catholic, not Christian and Catholic. Catholics are Christians who did not depart from the historical church.


Ill conceed that was a mistake. Perhaps next time
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Oct 15 2024 04:17pm
Quote (ScionCapital @ Oct 15 2024 06:03pm)
Ill conceed that was a mistake. Perhaps next time


God Bless you.
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Oct 15 2024 04:45pm
They say that education in Biology turns people atheist, but it instead hardened my belief in God.
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Oct 15 2024 04:47pm
Quote (Dmitriy @ Oct 15 2024 05:45pm)
They say that education in Biology turns people atheist, but it instead hardened my belief in God.


I must admit that seems extraordinarily counter intuitive. Any cursory examination of the eye would make creative design, to my mind, nonsensical.
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Oct 15 2024 04:52pm
Quote (ScionCapital @ Oct 15 2024 03:47pm)
I must admit that seems extraordinarily counter intuitive. Any cursory examination of the eye would make creative design, to my mind, nonsensical.


More like the other way around. Learning it all, especially in medicine, makes you realize how bs everything happening by chance to create the complicated systems of the body is.

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Oct 15 2024 04:58pm
Quote (ScionCapital @ Oct 15 2024 03:47pm)
I must admit that seems extraordinarily counter intuitive. Any cursory examination of the eye would make creative design, to my mind, nonsensical.


It's absolutely nonsensical to look at the living cell & human body especially as NOT creatively designed

Unless you're going to try to unironically argue that the human body formed on specks of stardust after being struck by lightning while bombarded with cosmic rays in the vicinity of a geothermal vent :bonk:

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Quote (Dmitriy @ Oct 15 2024 03:45pm)
They say that education in Biology turns people atheist, but it instead hardened my belief in God.


Education in the natural sciences confirms & hardens a belief in God.

“The first gulp from the glass of natural sciences will turn you into an atheist, but at the bottom of the glass God is waiting for you”

If you're dabbling in natural sciences but are still an atheist, that just means you have a lot left to learn
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