There are what, half a million children around the US who don't get put under such scrutiny despite 'warning signs' and it doesn't get anyone killed.
As per early pages, if we really cared about actual impacts, regulating access to motor vehicles would be 1000x more important because 1000x as many people are killed by reckless underage drivers with their parent's cars than their parents guns.

The rate of US mass school shootings like these are so low that its on the same magnitude of children killed by lightning and by sharks. Paranoid media driven parents have made 'active shooter drills' into a thing even though fires are far deadlier. In the past 5 years there's been 4 such shootings, at Oxford MI, Uvalde TX, Nashville TN and now Winder GA. With 35 murder victims. Compared to 20,000 people dying of fires in the US in that same span.


There are about 50 million children enrolled in US k-12 schools. A significant percentage of them have behavioral problems, many serious, many with more concrete and evinced threats or antisocial traits than the gay/queer/trans/whatever kid in this incident. You need a serious mental block to not realize how damaging it is to a huge number of children to treat them as suspects, as presumed guilty, as potential terrorists, and start quarantining them and building walls around them- on mere suspicions. How many hundreds of thousands of kids need to be pilloried and have their lives ruined by living under a cloud of suspicion? And to state the obvious next logical observation: The more you treat children like criminals, the more they become criminals. That "school to prison pipeline" has the right idea if wrong implementation. If little Johnny thinks his life is over because paranoid adults think he's a school shooter, maybe they're just making a self-fulfilling prophecy.

I've said it for decades, we love to treat innocent people like criminals and let the actual criminals go free. Nobody bats an eye when inner city kids run with the bloods and sell fentanyl at george floyd square while strapped, they just need the benefit of our understanding and tolerance. But the queer kid with no proven threats? Its not enough to persecute him, we need to lock up anyone who failed to do so.

20 people are killed by lightning each year. Just people not kids specifically.

49 kids are killed on average per year due to mass shootings.

About 20 times more likely. If you assume 10% are kids killed by lightning. Which is something we cannot control.


However we can control adolescence access to guns.

This post was edited by ScionCapital on Sep 6 2024 02:25pm

Every school shooting for the past two years was carried out by a transgender.
This of course is not counting black school shootings because those are never news worthy.

Reduce, yes. control? doubtful. we have more guns than people, even if we stopped selling any guns and bullets today we'd take 100 years to get rid of all of them.

Boy that's so inaccurate your should apply for Guinness world record.

Buy back, and non hereditary bequeth. It will take time. But we have plenty of time to lower that number.

Do you understand that when I am rhetorically comparing the rate of deaths of mass school shootings, lightning strikes, shark bites, vending machines tipping on people, brain eating amoebas, falling into the grand canyon and having a passing eagle drop a tortoise on your head, I'm making a point about the rarity these share in common, not their specific relative odds? In the 4 mass shootings at k-12 schools in 5 years there were 35 murder victims, of which 28 were students and 7 staff. That's 5.6 per year. You could figure out the exact number of children killed locking themselves in walk-in freezers and compare it, but I believe you are missing the point when I posted that 20,000 people died of fires in the same span and we're giving more weight to active shooter drills than fire drills.



It does heavily reinforce the theory that queerness / transgenderism is often a manifestation of the same underlying anti-social psychotype, just troubled people latching onto a fad pushed by society.
Rather than it being causal, I would argue

Did not mean to quote ya


If you asked Gooms question two decades ago, populist answer is the kid is responsible. More recently, populist is the Parents like with Michigan kid. I assert the responsibility is actually with the schools to secure their grounds given the reality we are in with these shootings. 'custodial duty' fail

This post was edited by RedFromWinter on Sep 6 2024 03:01pm

I agree we can cover some ground there aswell but I'm hesitant to secure schools where are look like prison fortresses.

Unless the father handed him the gun then he should only be charged with negligence, the kid should not be charged as an adult as he is a child, the rule should apply to all evenly.
I do not believe in having a pick and mix grab basket where a 14 year old is an adult when they shoot someone but not when they want to drink, smoke or do other activities.