Quote (ofthevoid @ Sep 6 2024 12:20pm)
It goes both ways and has been that way since after WW2. In reality we do it on a much larger scale because we have way deeper pockets.
There is a definite and obvious trend of Democrats trying to amplify this, typically always around an election. One thing that tells me that we're truly compromised by China is the fact that these headlines are never pointing their way, but rather tying the smear towards a candidate/administration that would obviously be worse for them. In reality they are 10x the bigger threat Russia is and have way more influence on us than Russia ever could, except strangely the media has never anything to say and any interference is in reference to Russia.
well i'd make 2 points:
1. it does go both ways, just not purely. all of right winged media claimed for MONTHS that the censorship of the weiner and hunter laptops swung literal elections. of course in the case of the Biden laptop this is because countless voter fraud allegations went no where and they needed a tangible story for how they lost and can still call the election a sham without anything related to voting machines or actual vote counts. all this to say its the same behavior "here's why i lost and its unfair", the dems blame russia the gop blames the deep state. no one actually loses a fair election these days it seems. cowards ofc.
2. i dont think its exactly that china owns us, i think its just a series of DEEPLY vested interest that goes both ways. its one of the few bright spots i see in the rise of BRICS. china is steering that ship and as of yet china can not exist in a world where the US declines without them suffering even worse consequences. they've already had to resort to deeply authoritarian population control tactics to maintain a grasp on their population. they'll hit the boomer retirement demands stage and struggle just like us only with a population 3x our size. and they have yet to find a market for their goods that doesnt include a healthy EU and US. im more troubled by chinese investment in US real estate than i am in either china sea expansion or potential election interference. we cant do as much to stop them controlling as we can to stop them literally owning us. the day they take hold of all soybean and pig production stateside we're going to see a serious issue, because then they're closer to self reliance using our country as a producer in the same way we outsourced all manufacturing over there. and they're sadly too close to that for comfort, figures i read had them owning something like 33% of all us pig production already, thats scary.
This post was edited by thesnipa on Sep 6 2024 11:29am