not looking for an exact number to be sure, just ballpark.

i did a bit of googling an an estimated 17% of the US population has a DSM-5 categorized mental illness, compared to 58% of trans people.

my only position based on that is i believe the % would still be very high even with a far more accepting society because the condition itself of gender dysmorphia (mental illness diagnoses or no) seems to be a very tough thing to deal with. thats the entire reason intervention has moved to the pre-puberty stage to try and create better outcomes from trans people later in life and hopefully alleviate some of the stress which leads to suicidal ideation.

to be honest im not sure where we disagree specifically. OP asked why people would bully someone they classify as having a mental illness, i simply broke down why i think it happens in the context of the campus Q&A lines. i find those events generally to be stupid and i dont consume that content. also from my perspective i hang around a lot of conservatives who have no idea who stephen crowder, charlie kirk, or matt walsh are. im sure the fox new to daily wire pipeline is real for some % of conservatives over say the age of 40, and facebook reel clips have amplified reach, i just dont think in my estimation its something many conservatives care much about. if the question was age 15-30 maga conservative white males tho, thats 100% a daily thing they consume.

I'm saying the "% of average population" is grossly under diagnosed so trans people who by default have a much higher rate because we typically must see a therapist and a psychiatrist. I'd wager that at least 40 to 50% of all people suffer debilitating mental illness at some point in their life, but it's usually not chronic so they never even realize it. Depression and bipolar disorder don't have to be chronic for it to be labeled as mental illness either, if we were to have accurate data I'd say trans people would still be higher than the average due to stigma, but it wouldn't be some insanely High hike like most people wish to suggest.

Ironically, it's the right wing coverage of transgender people thar gives them the most public exposure that righties believe they shouldn't have. It's very weird to be so seemingly obsessed about a subset of people that make up literally less than 1% of the population. Idk how people don't think the hyperfocus on them is weird.

Nobody would care if trans just did their own thing. Women have to speak up and protect themselves from a male that never went surgery changing in female lockers. Lia Thomas got the 1st place in a competition but now is banned from women elite sports. Transgenderism lost in this case.

Another issue is that woke tried to get schools to teach transgenderism to 5 year olds. So that more kids will become trans and go through the scam, while suffering from medical issues ranging from losing sensation down there, losing the ability have offsprings and more. Of course parents will protect their kids.

So yeah, they better cover it and destroy this terrible ideology.

This post was edited by Tarisus on Aug 27 2024 07:53am

But the vast majority of them are. They are literally just people who want to live their lives. It's wild to take a few cases of people and attribute it to some perceived 'movement' that is an attack on people of some kind. Also what does teaching kids entail? That they exist? Cause they do. This is straight up the same thing that happened with gay people in the 80s and 90s and paranoid weirdos said the same exact thing would happen (for whatever reason). And of course there were no upticks in homosexual people as a result. Though even if there were, I don't see an issue with being concerned what other people do with their own bodies. It's weird and it seems like a symptom of being chronically online. Actual people who live outside and don't live off of media drip feeds aren't worried about these things.

Well, trans are banned in women Elite sports. There’s no discussion for that. Teaching kids that you can be male or female, you can undergo permanent surgery that cannot be reverse. You can’t be teaching this narrative to little kids who barely knows anything.

So what? Again. They are just people who want to live their lives. 99% of the time. Most of them probably don't give a damn about sports and at most; just want to be called whatever they want to be called. And telling kids that they can be whatever they want to be has been socially acceptable and encouraged since forever. I see no objective reason why that would stop here, with this specific topic. Vast majority of trans kids aren't doing anything irreversible to themselves and don't even start any sort of treatment until at least close to adulthood. Again, people are chronically online. See the same 10 or 15 cases being echoed and think this is some widespread movement where the same things are constantly happening all the time. That's not how it is in real life.

This is nonsense. More young people today identify as trans and undergo damaging treatments/operations than ever before. This isn't because 50 years ago there were all these trans folks that were forced into the closet and real rates were the same as today but rather because it has morphed into a cultural badge, one that continues to try to sell this trend especially to the younger generations. That's how you end up with someone like Megan Fox that has 3 kids which are all apparently transgender (the odds of something like this happening is quite astronomical, unless it's obviously something pushed onto them, just like it's pushed onto thousands of other kids). A lot of young people are sold this lie as some exit valve to their problems only to realize in their 30s and 40s what a colossal and irreversible mistake it was.

The primary premise of what you're saying isn't even true. Transgender people make up 0.6% of the population. Less than 1%

What are you talking about? Also, again, what does this have to do with you and your personal life? What about the majority of transpeople who don't regret their choice? What you're saying makes no sense if examined even slightly.

Why are you concerned about some random celebrities kids? The entire argument seems like it's basically 'I don't like when people do this, so they shouldn't because it's wrong'. Like even in the absolute worse case scenario? Who tf are you to decide what people and thier kids should do with themselves? Again. This is truly weirdo behavior. Go outside.