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Jun 23 2024 05:45pm
Quote (Meanwhile @ Jun 24 2024 01:37am)
Seems parents have been harassed for years. Btw it could have been worse and end very, very, badly.

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He had freedom of speech and abused it:

“The freedom of one person stops where that of others begins” is a famous adage which means that an individual is be able to exercise his freedom without it limiting the freedom of others or being harmful to others.
In other words, one freedom of some must not encroach on the freedom of others or, even more, cause harm to others.
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Yeah not wrong he still has it. I just got confused with the tense there

But I mean I don't think he's gonna be talking about those families again.. I wonder why lol

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He HAS freedom of speech and abused it:

“The freedom of one person stops where that of others begins” is a famous adage which means that an individual is be able to exercise his freedom without it limiting the freedom of others or being harmful to others.
In other words, one freedom of some must not encroach on the freedom of others or, even more, cause harm to others.


Freedom of speech is absolute anything else is an attempt to obfuscate the constitution itself.

Only in a modern society with the help of technology can people be deprived of their speech. Alex Jones was a case example.

He didn't tell anyone to do anything. He didn't say hurt anyone. He didn't say people didn't die.

A mob(all the people crying victory over this case) won and made a legitimate person protected by the 1st amendment a guilty man.

No justice here just a public flogging through the internet.

edit: Let's take another example. There's a school shooting and I say it was fake and people should go piss on graves!

If you go and piss on someone's grave and get caught you are going to get charged for desecration. Even if you said "Alex Jones" told me too you are going to jail not Alex Jones.

It's only because he had such a substantial following that the case panned out.

This post was edited by SwamiVivekananda on Jun 23 2024 07:43pm
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Freedom of speech is absolute anything else is an attempt to obfuscate the constitution itself.


Alex Jones acted like an utter asshole and deserve his indictment. He can go in hell along with all the ignorants idiots who followed him.

https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/28/4101

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Alex Jones acted like an utter asshole and deserve his indictment. He can go in hell along with all the ignorants idiots who followed him.

https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/28/4101


Imagine we had access to all 66,666 of your posts and we used every post that you were racist or demeaning or a little rude and then we built a video of you where we took the absolute worst and most offensive things you said and made a 5 minute video saying "This is who is and these are his shitty beliefs".

Would you consider that to be fair judgment?

If we took all the posts you've been reported for and put them for everyone to see? Fair right?

Swear you people just don't see it.
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Imagine we had access to all 66,666 of your posts and we used every post that you were racist or demeaning or a little rude and then we built a video of you where we took the absolute worst and most offensive things you said and made a 5 minute video saying "This is who ^Meanwhile is and these are his shitty beliefs".

Would you consider that to be fair judgment?

If we took all the posts you've been reported for and put them for everyone to see? Fair right?

Swear you people just don't see it.


U.S. Code § 4101 - Definitions

(1) Defamation.—
The term “defamation” means any action or other proceeding for defamation, libel, slander, or similar claim alleging that forms of speech are false, have caused damage to reputation or emotional distress, have presented any person in a false light, or have resulted in criticism, dishonor, or condemnation of any person.
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Quote (SwamiVivekananda @ Jun 23 2024 09:06pm)
Imagine we had access to all 66,666 of your posts and we used every post that you were racist or demeaning or a little rude and then we built a video of you where we took the absolute worst and most offensive things you said and made a 5 minute video saying "This is who ^Meanwhile is and these are his shitty beliefs".

Would you consider that to be fair judgment?

If we took all the posts you've been reported for and put them for everyone to see? Fair right?

Swear you people just don't see it.


Did you really just try to use an example where people were reported and received LITERAL WARNS as an argument?

You literally just showed how freedom of speech is not freedom of consequences.

Can you see it? Of course you can't, because your head is buried in the sand.
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What a wild story you've concocted to not make your point correctly and misinterpret the laws this man broke, lmao


Not really, this just happened in the massive BILLLLIONSSSS of payout that was dumped on Orange Man.
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Quote (Meanwhile @ 23 Jun 2024 21:32)
U.S. Code § 4101 - Definitions

(1) Defamation.—
The term “defamation” means any action or other proceeding for defamation, libel, slander, or similar claim alleging that forms of speech are false, have caused damage to reputation or emotional distress, have presented any person in a false light, or have resulted in criticism, dishonor, or condemnation of any person.


Why do you think Alex Jones is lining up to counter sue? He was defamed/slandered and lied about repeatedly in a court of law. Can't do that and any constitutional lawyer will take that case in a heart beat.

People actually come up to him and say that "He killed the kids at Sandyhook!" because MSM has jaded public opinion of him so much. So people come and throw coffee in his face and threaten him when he's out to dinner with his family but it's ok because he deserves it for "things he never said in the first place". Give me a break. If you actually believe he said this stuff and meant it you are braindead retarded. I watched the show during that time frame and NONE OF YOU HAVE. That's what is sad. You guys are saying he said something based on what MSM told you he said. He didn't. But keep telling yourself in your mind that he said it because that's what makes things true.

They literally make up articles about him(to make money) and then state things about him that are patently false or say things he said that he just plain didn't say.

You guys have zero internal compass. Here's your logic. "I won't listen to a single Infowars broadcast which would help me make up my own mind about what Alex Jones said. No I can't do the most basic step towards an authentic opinion! He lost a court case he's a child death denier! MSM told me!" " Look. Article. I no read. Title says it all. Guilty". Brain dead parrots.

Zero integrity. Zero critical thinking.

When a person accepts a truth given to them without critically researching and analyzing the other side you are a FOOL. Not because the other side is necessarily wrong but because you cannot determine what is RIGHT/TRUTH without looking over the whole picture.

edit: I listened to Infowars during the timeframe of the Sandy Hook shooting. How come I didn't piss on graves? How come I never told people in 2012 that Alex Jones said people didn't die at Sandyhook? How come I never said he said it was staged.

DIND DING DING....

He never did. Why do you think I'll adamantly defend him? I heard what he said. Did you?

This post was edited by SwamiVivekananda on Jun 24 2024 09:11am
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Why do you think Alex Jones is lining up to counter sue? He was defamed/slandered and lied about repeatedly in a court of law. Can't do that and any constitutional lawyer will take that case in a heart beat.

People actually come up to him and say that "He killed the kids at Sandyhook!" because MSM has jaded public opinion of him so much. So people come and throw coffee in his face and threaten him when he's out to dinner with his family but it's ok because he deserves it for "things he never said in the first place". Give me a break. If you actually believe he said this stuff and meant it you are braindead retarded. I watched the show during that time frame and NONE OF YOU HAVE. That's what is sad. You guys are saying he said something based on what MSM told you he said. He didn't. But keep telling yourself in your mind that he said it because that's what makes things true.

They literally make up articles about him(to make money) and then state things about him that are patently false or say things he said that he just plain didn't say.

You guys have zero internal compass. Here's your logic. "I won't listen to a single Infowars broadcast which would help me make up my own mind about what Alex Jones said. No I can't do the most basic step towards an authentic opinion! He lost a court case he's a child death denier! MSM told me!" " Look. Article. I no read. Title says it all. Guilty". Brain dead parrots.

Zero integrity. Zero critical thinking.

When a person accepts a truth given to them without critically researching and analyzing the other side you are a FOOL. Not because the other side is necessarily wrong but because you cannot determine what is RIGHT/TRUTH without looking over the whole picture.

edit: I listened to Infowars during the timeframe of the Sandy Hook shooting. How come I didn't piss on graves? How come I never told people in 2012 that Alex Jones said people didn't die at Sandyhook? How come I never said he said it was staged.

DIND DING DING....

He never did. Why do you think I'll adamantly defend him? I heard what he said. Did you?


I was about to post yesterday but honestly it's not a big deal: I can understand the need of trying to apply the most freedom of speech as possible, especially when it's written in the holy stone of the U.S constitution (which is very deprecated but that's just my opinion).
So I understand, but it ends here, and this Alex Jone actually is one of the protagonists who are destroying the meaning of such constitution.

The very sad truth is that this rat probably noticed his conspiracist rants were generating alof of views (and so on purchases) on his websites and channels, so he pushed for it until it hurts the parents of the victims. Maybe he was looking to buy a second ranch ?
He gone too far and on the eyes of everyone. He has been exposed and punished by the law. He could ask to pay less money, appeal or whatever, but he will still be guilty of one of the most despicable behaviour a public person can do.

This post was edited by Meanwhile on Jun 24 2024 09:36am
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