Meanwhile's idea of Nazi's are brother and sister in Alabama with a confederate flag.

No hate on people from Alabama on my end.

The obscure "foreign name" *aligned with Zelensky* Nazi who is shaking hands with Joe Biden as our president vows to send him weapons, that nobody?

As I said, and you just ignored:

• Zelensky just fired a top general on the demands of the Azov battalion a couple days ago
  
• The Azov / Right Sector / Svoboda were directly involved in the overthrow of the last government, they were the specific element that elevated it from protests to a coup
  
• A heavily armed military wing of ultranationalists with advanced weaponry is a mind numbingly obvious risk for a country that could easily see a power vacuum in the near future

This hasn't been 6 years of US foreign policy, its been decades of it, that's what makes it so predictable. If I said that arming the sunni militants to fight assad, creating a power vacuum and leaving in place a heavily armed group of radicals, would lead to those radicals filling the power vacuum- that wouldn't make me some genius chessplayer seeing 35 moves ahead. Its the same shit that's we've been stomping around in since before either of us were born. I said it about Iraq and Afghanistan, was I only saying it because I was regurgitating Trump propaganda? I mean he did run for president in 2000 after all. But funny historical parallel, he noped out of the reform party because Buchanan wouldn't disavow literal nazis

Its 2024 and you've allied yourself with literal nazis. I feel like the bar has been set pretty low, but c'mon. You can't just scream "Russian propaganda" and "cultists" at everything as the guys you support sending weapons post videos of themselves committing war crimes while heiling hitler

You posted about this group months ago and I pointed out how the leader, which you claimed was head of a group very relevant politically, was a total failure in the recent election.

Do you remember that? What was his name, what was his result in the recent Ukraine election? These are relevant facts bruh.

Are you trying to argue that the guys who personally meet with Joe Biden to cement the alliance are politically irrelevant, or are you trying to argue that the guys who make demands that Zelensky fulfills are politically irrelevant?


Lets bring it back a few years to the Iraq and Afghanistan and Syrian and Yemen and Libyan wars. Do you recognize that the United States participated in the overthrow of governments in countries, had the likes of Hillary Clinton promise them our unending and limitless support as we shipped them weapons to fight for us, created power vacuums that were filled by worse groups, only to abandon the countries in the end and leave them to their ruins? I wonder if after all these years and the outcomes on full display, with the long running aftermath like the dam collapse in Derna last year, that you'd deny the outcome of our foreign interventions.

I honestly don't know what you're talking about. This is weird stuff. I'm not sure if I should refer you to the history channel or a psychologist.

Sure though, make the talking point before the first debate something about the president being corrupt and incompetent. Even Trump started raising expectations but go for it.

Its not a hard question

America has shipped weapons to our proxy warriors or even intervened directly in multiple conflicts in the past few decades. They became politicized and we had jingoist warhawks telling us that anyone who doesn't support the war effort must be a pinko commie or a terrorist sympathizer or whatever. And in the end, the wars imploded on us, to the benefit of countries like Iran and Russia. The idea of shipping arms to ISIS to fight Assad seems moronic in retrospect, and yet Clinton publicly pushed it, Kerry agreed and the Obama administration actually did it

I want to know if even with the benefit of hindsight and the pundits and politicians and media moving on and admitting the mistakes, that you admit it.
Because that's the very first step in acknowledging that we're just in a long running pattern, and if you're going to claim the Ukraine war is going to end differently, I'd like to know what you think will make this one the exception.

The azow are 5000 members dude.
Ukraine has 40 milions citizens.

Fixed