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May 30 2024 08:52pm
Quote (IceMage @ May 30 2024 08:47pm)
This is another one of those cult slight of hands that happen all the time.

I outlined the facts, you simply focus on the first one. Trump didn't just have sex with a pornstar. He also had that pornstar paid off during the presidential campaign in order to keep it quiet, and he falsified business records in order to pay his scumbag lawyer back.

Can you imagine a world where the nation in 2016 didn't find out Trump banged a pornstar while his wife was at home with his four month old baby, and it was hidden because of a scheme devised by his scumbag team of media/law/business people, and approved by him, who covered it up? The election was decided based on not that many votes in a few states, you could make the argument that this swayed the election. But you don't give a fuck because Trump won.

The whole "legitimacy" talking point is nonsense. Things happen and the election is held. Trump got an assist from Comey and the Russians in 2016, but you obviously wouldn't acknowledge those facts as reason to treat Trump as an illegitimate president. So spare me the hyperbolic nonsense. People who would treat a Biden victory in 2024 as illegitimate because of this ruling have the same credibility as those who treated his victory in 2020 as illegitimate. And that's zero.


This is nonsense. Paying off a pornstar for bad publicity is not a crime. Trump has not been charged with campaign finance violations, but when other campaigns are admittedly guilty (see: the Clinton campaign) they're typically settled with fines. The Democratic party, and voting base, elected to bring a former president to trial in a state court under novel legal theories for a supposed crime that has never been demonstrated and out of state jurisdiction.

Comey did his best to hide the fact that Hillary Clinton deliberately lied to FBI investigators. That's a crime, one which many other people are in jail for, but one for which she was never charged. The notion that Comey was swinging for Trump in any way is ludicrous, it's a simpleton's argument.

Trump was pursued on "novel" charges, as left-wing media was describing the case until recently, because the Biden administration calculated that they could beat Trump and wanted to snuff the oxygen out of challengers. That's not the action of anyone who believes Trump is some sort of existential threat. You've been lied to. Now they're losing to the weak candidate, and the answer is to double down rather than reflect on what has made this the least popular administration in the last 60 years.
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Quote (ofthevoid @ May 30 2024 09:40pm)
lol, simps really think this hurts his re-election chances when in reality it just re energizes the base. Some real low iq political strategizing.


lol :rofl:

He needs to win independent votes not energize his base :bonk:
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May 30 2024 09:01pm
Quote (EndlessSky @ May 30 2024 09:02pm)
They smacked him with the book.

All 34 charges.

He's probably going to win this appeal, but this trial might shoot his polls down by like 5 points.


It's an interesting question that's been talked about. Voters are open to saying convictions matter, but context is everything with polls and you can get radically different results by tweaking the wording. It'll be interesting to see how the next 8 weeks of polling plays out. .

Quote (SharpNips @ May 30 2024 10:52pm)
lol :rofl:

He needs to win independent votes not energize his base :bonk:


What is an independent voter in Michigan, Wisconsin, Pennsylvania more likely to think, that Trump was convicted fairly by a left-wing DA in front of a left-wing judge by a jury drawn from a pool that hates him? Or that Democrats are more worried about releasing criminals and illegal immigrants so that they can pursue their opponents on political charges? I don't know, we'll see.

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Quote (SharpNips @ May 30 2024 10:52pm)
lol :rofl:

He needs to win independent votes not energize his base :bonk:


He’s currently leading in most polls. Also you can laugh all you want but what I said is happening. Go read the Reuters article.


Trump guilty verdict fires up Republican donors, who pledge millions

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Major Republican donors rallied behind Donald Trump on Thursday, pledging millions of dollars to support the first convicted felon running for U.S. president on a tumultuous day for his election campaign


This post was edited by ofthevoid on May 30 2024 09:15pm
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May 30 2024 09:36pm
i like presdential candidates who aren't convicted felons
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Orange man bad is not justification for a witch hunt. This WILL damage Democracy.
All politicians do things that could be considered illegal.

Trump did nothing that hurt the US. But because he tried to "clean the swamp" (which is a good thing), he's been attacked.

Leaning left is fine as long as you don't... cheat.
Unfortunately... the left is cheating.




I know this list isn't up-to-date, but it's getting hard to keep up with the down-sliding of the left....




1. Dems paid for false documentation (Steele dossier), and bought the major media sources.
2. Dems used the false documentation to acquire FISA warrants... illegally.
3. Dems used those FISA warrants to illegally spy on the Republican nominee... et al.
4. Dems got just about every Dem judge in the land to allow idiotic suits against anything Trump tried to accomplish.
5. Dems used the information they got illegally, to harass, charge and convict any and all in the hope something would drop that they could use against Trump.
5. Dems also used this illegally gotten information to start the Russiagate investigation.
7. Dems then got Blasey_Ford to accuse Kavanaugh.
8. Dems paid protesters to disrupt the Kavanuagh hearings.
9. Dem Sen. Maria Chappelle-Nadal, went on Facebook and said: "I wish someone would assassinate Trump.
10. Dem Congress woman Waters in interviews called for other Dems to harass and assault Republicans, Republican politicians and white house staff, w/e they went out in public.
11. Dems, after Mueller came back with no conviction, started in on Ukrainegate.
12. Dems used falsified statements by whistle blower and then by State Dept. members, to go for an Impeachment.
13. Dems, after failing to get Trump ousted started blaming Trump for covid-19 response, even though it's been proven that the W.H.O withheld crucial information from not only the US, but from the World.
14. Dems, after failing to damage the President of the US enough, with that... are now adding fuel to the fire, to incite to riot.
15. Dems then, use the resulting chaos to try to trap Trump between a rock and a hard place... whether or not to use the military to put a stop to the rioting and damage.
16. Dems now, call out their hole card, Mattis, to add edges to the rock and the hard place they've set up.
17. Dem Nancy Pelosi: “I just don’t know why there aren’t uprisings all over the country, and maybe there will be.”
18. Dem Kamala Harris: “Protesters should not let up” and “They’re not gonna let up and they should not.”
19. Dem Ayanna Pressley: “There needs to be unrest in the streets.”
20. Dems waste tax payer's money a third time with Insurrectiongate.
21. Dems waste tax payers money on Trump's taxes investigation.
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May 30 2024 10:02pm
Quote (bogie160 @ May 30 2024 07:52pm)
This is nonsense. Paying off a pornstar for bad publicity is not a crime. Trump has not been charged with campaign finance violations, but when other campaigns are admittedly guilty (see: the Clinton campaign) they're typically settled with fines. The Democratic party, and voting base, elected to bring a former president to trial in a state court under novel legal theories for a supposed crime that has never been demonstrated and out of state jurisdiction.

Comey did his best to hide the fact that Hillary Clinton deliberately lied to FBI investigators. That's a crime, one which many other people are in jail for, but one for which she was never charged. The notion that Comey was swinging for Trump in any way is ludicrous, it's a simpleton's argument.

Trump was pursued on "novel" charges, as left-wing media was describing the case until recently, because the Biden administration calculated that they could beat Trump and wanted to snuff the oxygen out of challengers. That's not the action of anyone who believes Trump is some sort of existential threat. You've been lied to. Now they're losing to the weak candidate, and the answer is to double down rather than reflect on what has made this the least popular administration in the last 60 years.


Look at you debate the laws should be followed. Except for when they say involve Trump. That sleepy Joe rigged elections and convicted Trump of made up charges while in the throes of dementia. Looooool you can’t make this stuff up anymore.
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May 30 2024 10:03pm
Quote (Ghot @ 31 May 2024 00:00)
Orange man bad is not justification for a witch hunt. This WILL damage Democracy.
All politicians do things that could be considered illegal.

Trump did nothing that hurt the US. But because he tried to "clean the swamp" (which is a good thing), he's been attacked.

Leaning left is fine as long as you don't... cheat.
Unfortunately... the left is cheating.




I know this list isn't up-to-date, but it's getting hard to keep up with the down-sliding of the left....




1. Dems paid for false documentation (Steele dossier), and bought the major media sources.
2. Dems used the false documentation to acquire FISA warrants... illegally.
3. Dems used those FISA warrants to illegally spy on the Republican nominee... et al.
4. Dems got just about every Dem judge in the land to allow idiotic suits against anything Trump tried to accomplish.
5. Dems used the information they got illegally, to harass, charge and convict any and all in the hope something would drop that they could use against Trump.
5. Dems also used this illegally gotten information to start the Russiagate investigation.
7. Dems then got Blasey_Ford to accuse Kavanaugh.
8. Dems paid protesters to disrupt the Kavanuagh hearings.
9. Dem Sen. Maria Chappelle-Nadal, went on Facebook and said: "I wish someone would assassinate Trump.
10. Dem Congress woman Waters in interviews called for other Dems to harass and assault Republicans, Republican politicians and white house staff, w/e they went out in public.
11. Dems, after Mueller came back with no conviction, started in on Ukrainegate.
12. Dems used falsified statements by whistle blower and then by State Dept. members, to go for an Impeachment.
13. Dems, after failing to get Trump ousted started blaming Trump for covid-19 response, even though it's been proven that the W.H.O withheld crucial information from not only the US, but from the World.
14. Dems, after failing to damage the President of the US enough, with that... are now adding fuel to the fire, to incite to riot.
15. Dems then, use the resulting chaos to try to trap Trump between a rock and a hard place... whether or not to use the military to put a stop to the rioting and damage.
16. Dems now, call out their hole card, Mattis, to add edges to the rock and the hard place they've set up.
17. Dem Nancy Pelosi: “I just don’t know why there aren’t uprisings all over the country, and maybe there will be.”
18. Dem Kamala Harris: “Protesters should not let up” and “They’re not gonna let up and they should not.”
19. Dem Ayanna Pressley: “There needs to be unrest in the streets.”
20. Dems waste tax payer's money a third time with Insurrectiongate.
21. Dems waste tax payers money on Trump's taxes investigation.


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May 30 2024 10:37pm
Quote (Ghot @ May 30 2024 11:00pm)
Orange man bad is not justification for a witch hunt. This WILL damage Democracy.
All politicians do things that could be considered illegal.

Trump did nothing that hurt the US. But because he tried to "clean the swamp" (which is a good thing), he's been attacked.

Leaning left is fine as long as you don't... cheat.
Unfortunately... the left is cheating.




I know this list isn't up-to-date, but it's getting hard to keep up with the down-sliding of the left....




1. Dems paid for false documentation (Steele dossier), and bought the major media sources.
2. Dems used the false documentation to acquire FISA warrants... illegally.
3. Dems used those FISA warrants to illegally spy on the Republican nominee... et al.
4. Dems got just about every Dem judge in the land to allow idiotic suits against anything Trump tried to accomplish.
5. Dems used the information they got illegally, to harass, charge and convict any and all in the hope something would drop that they could use against Trump.
5. Dems also used this illegally gotten information to start the Russiagate investigation.
7. Dems then got Blasey_Ford to accuse Kavanaugh.
8. Dems paid protesters to disrupt the Kavanuagh hearings.
9. Dem Sen. Maria Chappelle-Nadal, went on Facebook and said: "I wish someone would assassinate Trump.
10. Dem Congress woman Waters in interviews called for other Dems to harass and assault Republicans, Republican politicians and white house staff, w/e they went out in public.
11. Dems, after Mueller came back with no conviction, started in on Ukrainegate.
12. Dems used falsified statements by whistle blower and then by State Dept. members, to go for an Impeachment.
13. Dems, after failing to get Trump ousted started blaming Trump for covid-19 response, even though it's been proven that the W.H.O withheld crucial information from not only the US, but from the World.
14. Dems, after failing to damage the President of the US enough, with that... are now adding fuel to the fire, to incite to riot.
15. Dems then, use the resulting chaos to try to trap Trump between a rock and a hard place... whether or not to use the military to put a stop to the rioting and damage.
16. Dems now, call out their hole card, Mattis, to add edges to the rock and the hard place they've set up.
17. Dem Nancy Pelosi: “I just don’t know why there aren’t uprisings all over the country, and maybe there will be.”
18. Dem Kamala Harris: “Protesters should not let up” and “They’re not gonna let up and they should not.”
19. Dem Ayanna Pressley: “There needs to be unrest in the streets.”
20. Dems waste tax payer's money a third time with Insurrectiongate.
21. Dems waste tax payers money on Trump's taxes
Quote (Ghot @ May 30 2024 11:00pm)
Orange man bad is not justification for a witch hunt. This WILL damage Democracy.
All politicians do things that could be considered illegal.

Trump did nothing that hurt the US. But because he tried to "clean the swamp" (which is a good thing), he's been attacked.

Leaning left is fine as long as you don't... cheat.
Unfortunately... the left is cheating.




I know this list isn't up-to-date, but it's getting hard to keep up with the down-sliding of the left....




1. Dems paid for false documentation (Steele dossier), and bought the major media sources.
2. Dems used the false documentation to acquire FISA warrants... illegally.
3. Dems used those FISA warrants to illegally spy on the Republican nominee... et al.
4. Dems got just about every Dem judge in the land to allow idiotic suits against anything Trump tried to accomplish.
5. Dems used the information they got illegally, to harass, charge and convict any and all in the hope something would drop that they could use against Trump.
5. Dems also used this illegally gotten information to start the Russiagate investigation.
7. Dems then got Blasey_Ford to accuse Kavanaugh.
8. Dems paid protesters to disrupt the Kavanuagh hearings.
9. Dem Sen. Maria Chappelle-Nadal, went on Facebook and said: "I wish someone would assassinate Trump.
10. Dem Congress woman Waters in interviews called for other Dems to harass and assault Republicans, Republican politicians and white house staff, w/e they went out in public.
11. Dems, after Mueller came back with no conviction, started in on Ukrainegate.
12. Dems used falsified statements by whistle blower and then by State Dept. members, to go for an Impeachment.
13. Dems, after failing to get Trump ousted started blaming Trump for covid-19 response, even though it's been proven that the W.H.O withheld crucial information from not only the US, but from the World.
14. Dems, after failing to damage the President of the US enough, with that... are now adding fuel to the fire, to incite to riot.
15. Dems then, use the resulting chaos to try to trap Trump between a rock and a hard place... whether or not to use the military to put a stop to the rioting and damage.
16. Dems now, call out their hole card, Mattis, to add edges to the rock and the hard place they've set up.
17. Dem Nancy Pelosi: “I just don’t know why there aren’t uprisings all over the country, and maybe there will be.”
18. Dem Kamala Harris: “Protesters should not let up” and “They’re not gonna let up and they should not.”
19. Dem Ayanna Pressley: “There needs to be unrest in the streets.”
20. Dems waste tax payer's money a third time with Insurrectiongate.
21. Dems waste tax payers money on Trump's taxes investigation.


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Who cheated in 2020? All fraud has been found to be Republicans voting more than once. Zero evidence of dems.

Trump did collude with Russia, even barr admitted it. But lemme guess. Barr is a rino?

Dems can protest as much as they want. 1st amendment. Proud boys and others cause more havoc than anyone else.

Isn't it like, 40+ trump allies that are indicted for all kinds of shit? Draining the swamp indeed.

Sounds to me like you're just so far into conspiracies you can't tell truth from fiction

This post was edited by Pyrotechx on May 30 2024 10:39pm
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Ghetto, uneducated trash. Stay in Canada where you belong.
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