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Feb 7 2024 04:41pm
Quote (InsaneBobb @ Feb 7 2024 02:33pm)
LOL! So what you're saying is that it's okay for the US to actively interfere in the elections of every other nation on earth, but if some other nation even puts an opinion in online, they're the big evil?

You're a joke, and sham prosecutions of non-Citizens who aren't even in the country are meaningless. Just bait to make simpletons believe a narrative. Seems like they hit the mark with you, eh?


so youre straw-manning the US instead of facing the facts that Russia has and IS trying to undermine our political system? why is it that the Trump trash refuses to live in the real world?

we are talking about what Russia and Putin have done and are doing to the United States. stay on topic
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Quote (JessiWan @ 7 Feb 2024 15:37)
Maybe if you had given a Putin a chance to say his side of the story and maybe defend himself, you would find that he hasn't been undermining your country or elections.

You are condemning someone and refusing to let him say anything. How is this fair treatment to anyone?

Why is hearing both sides pathetic?


Progressives do not believe in due process. Not the ability to face your accuser, not the ability to speak in your own defense, nothing. For our own citizens. Why would you think they would believe both sides in an armed conflict should have a right they do not believe the citizenry should have?

I will say one thing about the Marxist scum in PARD, they are very consistent.

Quote (gnarjay @ 7 Feb 2024 15:41)
so youre straw-manning the US instead of facing the facts that Russia has and IS trying to undermine our political system? why is it that the Trump trash refuses to live in the real world?

we are talking about what Russia and Putin have done and are doing to the United States. stay on topic


There is zero evidence that Russia has attempted to undermine anything. The only evidence is that some Russians, probably state funded, put their opinions onto social media. If foreigners putting their opinions online is "undermining US Elections" then half the people in PARD are guilty of undermining US elections.

As I said, you're a mental midget, unworthy of paying attention to. :)

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Quote (gnarjay @ Feb 7 2024 02:41pm)
so youre straw-manning the US instead of facing the facts that Russia has and IS trying to undermine our political system? why is it that the Trump trash refuses to live in the real world?

we are talking about what Russia and Putin have done and are doing to the United States. stay on topic


Why do you refuse to let Putin say anything?
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Quote (JessiWan @ Feb 7 2024 02:37pm)
Maybe if you had given Putin a chance to say his side of the story and maybe defend himself, you would find that he hasn't been undermining your country or elections.

You are condemning someone and refusing to let him say anything. How is this fair treatment to anyone?



Why is hearing both sides pathetic?


are you also interested in Pol-Pot's side of the the story? how about Mao? how about the devil himself?
maybe these guys really arent that bad huh? maybe we should listen to every single drunk driver's story as well....they possibly could have good reasons for driving drunk that we just dont understand

the fact is, some stories arent worth hearing.
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Quote (JessiWan @ Feb 7 2024 02:44pm)
Why do you refuse to let Putin say anything?


why are you putting words into my mouth? the question was "why is the left upset that Tucker is interviewing Putin" and the answer is a no-brainer if you've paid any attention at all in the last 20 years
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Feb 7 2024 04:51pm
Quote (gnarjay @ 7 Feb 2024 15:45)
are you also interested in Pol-Pot's side of the the story? how about Mao? how about the devil himself?
maybe these guys really arent that bad huh? maybe we should listen to every single drunk driver's story as well....they possibly could have good reasons for driving drunk that we just dont understand

the fact is, some stories arent worth hearing.


Yes, very much interested in Chairman Mao's side of the story. His side of the story is why China is ruled with an iron fist by Chairman Xi.

Ignorance is not bliss when it comes to international relations. Ignorance almost always leads to escalating tensions and war.

Further, this topic is NOT about your petty little "russia russia russia" bullshit. This topic is about Tucker Carlson clips, interviews, and etc. Tucker Carlson is a US Citizen in good standing who has the RIGHT to freedom of speech, the RIGHT to the freedom of the Press, and the RIGHT to freedom of travel to nations we are not at war with and have no travel restrictions between.

Everything you say is nonsensical.
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Quote (gnarjay @ Feb 7 2024 02:45pm)
are you also interested in Pol-Pot's side of the the story? how about Mao? how about the devil himself?
maybe these guys really arent that bad huh? maybe we should listen to every single drunk driver's story as well....they possibly could have good reasons for driving drunk that we just dont understand

the fact is, some stories arent worth hearing.


Indeed you should hear those people's side of story. Hearing people's story does not mean they are automatically absolved of any wrongdoing. Rather it's one of the basic principles of having due process. You don't assign guilt to someone without letting him speak first.

Even in the case of Pol-Pot, regardless of how many people you think he had killed, you should still let him speak, and preferably in a court. I know it's hard for you to grasp but in the West we have this funny habit of letting people defend themselves in an accusation.

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Indeed you should hear those people's side of story. Hearing people's story does not mean they are automatically absolved of any wrongdoing. Rather it's one of basic principles of having due process. You don't assign guilt to someone without letting him speak first.

Even in the case of Pol-Pot, regardless of how many people you think he had killed, you should still let him speak, and preferably in a court. I know it's hard for you to grasp but in the West we have this funny habit of letting people defend themselves in an accusation.


hearing an argument in court is not the same thing as giving someone a platform to push their propaganda, do you understand the difference? Tucker has been pushing Kremlin talking points for YEARS. why do you think Putin denied interviews to everyone except his special little boy?
because Tucker is already politically aligned with Russia and is going to give him softball questions. use your fuckin brain dude
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Quote (gnarjay @ 7 Feb 2024 15:58)
hearing an argument in court is not the same thing as giving someone a platform to push their propaganda, do you understand the difference? Tucker has been pushing Kremlin talking points for YEARS. why do you think Putin denied interviews to everyone except his special little boy?
because Tucker is already politically aligned with Russia and is going to give him softball questions. use your fuckin brain dude


Tucker has not been "given" a platform. Tucker has BUILT a platform. Elon Musk OWNS the platform.

The idea that we have given hundreds of billions in weapons and monetary support in somebody else's war without hearing from both sides in the conflict is purely absurd, and your lack of basic curiosity says more about you than anyone else.

Claiming that Tucker, or anyone else who wants to hear the stance of the President of Russia is somehow politically aligned with them is absurd. I will say though that you're politically aligned with Ukraine for no reason whatsoever, to the tune of stealing hundreds of billions of dollars worth of wealth from US Citizens and providing it to Ukraine free of charge. And that's interesting, given that Ukraine has never been a US ally OR US business partner, and on the list of Corrupt Governments Ukraine scores right near the top in the developed world as "Most Corrupt".
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Quote (gnarjay @ Feb 7 2024 02:58pm)
hearing an argument in court is not the same thing as giving someone a platform to push their propaganda, do you understand the difference? Tucker has been pushing Kremlin talking points for YEARS. why do you think Putin denied interviews to everyone except his special little boy?
because Tucker is already politically aligned with Russia and is going to give him softball questions. use your fuckin brain dude


Or maybe Tucker is the only one who won't misrepresent what he says? I totally don't blame Putin, your attitude and the shit you said in this thread is exactly why Putin denies interviews to everyone. He shouldn't have to deal with crap from people like you who already decide he's guilty before he even says anything.

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