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Jan 1 2024 08:13am
Quote (Goomshill @ Jan 1 2024 01:58pm)
So the metric of a tiger's teeth is whether they get roped in by an obvious bait designed to pull them into a conflict? Houthis might as well be putting out a bag of hamburgers with a piano dangling over it on a rope


The US has the least interest in securing global shipping anyway.

And the effect on Israel is negligible. Shipping companies are making more and consumers may or may not see an incremental rise in prices.
The biggest loser is probably Egypt followed by China, EU countries and Persian gulf oil suppliers.

This truly is a storm in a teacup but it is the biggest Pyrrhic victory the Iran backed groups can carve out of an otherwise meaningless existence.
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Jan 1 2024 08:53am
Quote (Goomshill @ Jan 1 2024 08:58am)
So the metric of a tiger's teeth is whether they get roped in by an obvious bait designed to pull them into a conflict? Houthis might as well be putting out a bag of hamburgers with a piano dangling over it on a rope


China is sitting back smirking as we keep spreading our military thinner and thinner engaging in dumb military conflicts that yield nothing of value to us.

Between all the ME wars, Ukraine, now this, it’s always a win for them.
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Jan 1 2024 08:57am
Quote (Goomshill @ Jan 1 2024 08:58am)
So the metric of a tiger's teeth is whether they get roped in by an obvious bait designed to pull them into a conflict?


Correct.

Pax Americana is predicated on the notion that American hegemony in the Seas will remain an unwavering constant. Flip flop wearing,khat chewing, sand Boyz just proved to the world that uncle sam no longer has active deterrence when it comes to protecting maritime shipping lanes, this is literally the most important factor in power Projection.

I'm sure the diversity filled tyranny brigade will restore the myth that American ships are untouchable because it's been 17ish days and the pool still remains closed
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Jan 1 2024 09:01am
Quote (Prox1m1ty @ Jan 1 2024 09:13am)
The US has the least interest in securing global shipping anyway.

And the effect on Israel is negligible. Shipping companies are making more and consumers may or may not see an incremental rise in prices.
The biggest loser is probably Egypt followed by China, EU countries and Persian gulf oil suppliers..


Your first point is laughably untrue my friend, I'm sorry.

As for your second point:
The port of eliat, while small, has seen 85% of Imports cease, 40k+ workers/residents leave all the while shipping premiums are skyrocketing for all markets, this is costing israels billions and this is the driving factor as to why they desperately needed that illegal munitions shipment from the USA and why they are selling off foreign assets.

Your last point I agree with; Europe is totally fucked the longer the straight remains closed
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Jan 1 2024 09:51am
Quote (zorzin @ Jan 1 2024 03:01pm)
Your first point is laughably untrue my friend, I'm sorry.

As for your second point:
The port of eliat, while small, has seen 85% of Imports cease, 40k+ workers/residents leave all the while shipping premiums are skyrocketing for all markets, this is costing israels billions and this is the driving factor as to why they desperately needed that illegal munitions shipment from the USA and why they are selling off foreign assets.

Your last point I agree with; Europe is totally fucked the longer the straight remains closed


Laughably untrue?

Prove it.
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Quote (Prox1m1ty @ Jan 1 2024 10:51am)
Laughably untrue?

Prove it.


Prove that the US is least reliant on global shipping? It’s a silly statement of course we want safe shipping, even if the US is not that reliant on Suez, there are derivative negative effects in a globalized economy.
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Quote (ofthevoid @ Jan 1 2024 03:55pm)
Prove that the US is least reliant on global shipping? It’s a silly statement of course we want safe shipping, even if the US is not that reliant on Suez, there are derivative negative effects in a globalized economy.


We can do this very simply, what is the US shipping through the Suez that it relies on?

Perhaps there are negative effects in a globalized economy. That does not equate to disproving the US is less reliant.

There is wanting safe shipping and relying on safe shipping. The US protected shipping for its allies, that is becoming less of a priority for them.

This post was edited by Prox1m1ty on Jan 1 2024 10:01am
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Jan 1 2024 11:33am
Quote (Prox1m1ty @ Jan 1 2024 10:51am)
Laughably untrue?

Prove it.


Why of course!

"The US has the least interest in securing global shipping anyway"

I thought it was a funny statement because the US is the only country that has the obligation to protect maritime trade, they don't have the least interest, they literally have the only interest in it.

And they are failing (currently) against Ansarallah. The joint chiefs are obviously wondering whether or not America can afford another Afghanistan disaster. Remember, the only way to defeat modern mobile "shoot and scoot" systems is by deploying marines and good luck with that
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Quote (zorzin @ Jan 1 2024 05:33pm)
Why of course!

"The US has the least interest in securing global shipping anyway"

I thought it was a funny statement because the US is the only country that has the obligation to protect maritime trade, they don't have the least interest, they literally have the only interest in it.

And they are failing (currently) against Ansarallah. The joint chiefs are obviously wondering whether or not America can afford another Afghanistan disaster. Remember, the only way to defeat modern mobile "shoot and scoot" systems is by deploying marines and good luck with that


Obliged to whom?
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Quote (Prox1m1ty @ Jan 1 2024 12:40pm)
Obliged to whom?


Itself obviously,don't feint ignorance lol. Being the undisputed world hegemon since ww2 has pros/cons. A pro is that everyone is forced to use greenbacks as a reserve currency. A con would be that the US gets the above benefit but only if the trade routes it profits off of, are protected.

Ansarallah closing the straight only brings the eu/whomever, closer to a non US reserve currency. This is why brics+ is a thing, the decline of America is happening right before your eyes.
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