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Nov 16 2023 02:43pm
Quote (ofthevoid @ Nov 16 2023 12:40pm)
No side, just feel passionate about objective progress and people bringing that progress being bashed based on #current thing garbage.

I know liberals that are some of the loudest proponents of environmentalism/anti oil. Will have all the public displays, Patagonia's, bumper stickers till kingdom come, vegetarian, and so on. And then they will immediately say how much they can't stand Elon and won't buy a Tesla and continue to drive their gas SUV. Absolute frauds honestly, with some really weird virtue signaling hierarchies.


Elon was a darling of the left until he spoke out against the Democratic party

I criticized Elon back in 2018 when he was still the darling of the left

Its funny how simply opposing leftist dogma has people do a complete 180 of their opinion of him
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Nov 16 2023 02:46pm
Quote (Norlander @ Nov 16 2023 04:16pm)
remnants of conscience

They seem to have more than Israel and Israel is one of the good guys :lol:

Quote (Prox1m1ty @ Nov 16 2023 04:34pm)
Working age males.

Ooo maybe Peter Zeihan can make a new video
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Nov 16 2023 02:50pm
Quote (ofthevoid @ Nov 16 2023 01:40pm)
No side, just feel passionate about objective progress and people bringing that progress being bashed based on #current thing garbage.

I know liberals that are some of the loudest proponents of environmentalism/anti oil. Will have all the public displays, Patagonia's, bumper stickers till kingdom come, vegetarian, and so on. And then they will immediately say how much they can't stand Elon and won't buy a Tesla and continue to drive their gas SUV. Absolute frauds honestly, with some really weird virtue signaling hierarchies.


You can still examine history where objective progress was made and understand that it can be done better in the future.

I am inclined as well to believe, especially in our generation (if you're in your mid 30s) that we're semi wired to adore billionaires, regardless of anything. We grew up on shows like Cops where we were like yeah, fuck that drug addict up who's not even resisting arrest. We never saw a show where they go to rich people's homes to pin them to the floor who clearly exploited, committed mass fraud, off shores all their income to avoid tax and is responsible for infinitely more damage than any peasant drug addict.

I think younger people, are perhaps starting to actually look underneath. That might initially be considered part of the woke agenda, but I don't think its going anywhere. I don't think its a fad. Some of the consumerism is, but the general shift, I don't think so.

Well see though, I do in general think history is going to be written different than we read it. It wont be a highlight reel.

Another tell tale sign for me, is across out companies, we have hundreds of employees, and I have never in my life seen so many young people who will cite employee rights, contract rights, etc. There's a shift happening, people are starting to learn their rights , exercise them and as a result examine those that would exploit them. I see it more and more each day in our own businesses.

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Nov 16 2023 02:53pm
Quote (El1te @ Nov 16 2023 03:43pm)
Elon was a darling of the left until he spoke out against the Democratic party

I criticized Elon back in 2018 when he was still the darling of the left

Its funny how simply opposing leftist dogma has people do a complete 180 of their opinion of him


For a second, lets try to forget his previous/current political leanings.

They guy built a 700+billion EV company, which employs like 127k people. Aside from that he has other companies that are working on some really cool technology, focused on satellites, rockets, et cetera.

How should we view someone like that as a society? They provide jobs, pay taxes, make us technologically competitive across the globe. Is it all perfect? Probably not but I'd argue those are the things we should be for.

Like there's a lot of leftist entrepreneurs in big tech, Zuck, Dorsey, Bazos, etc. Sure I may not like or agree with their political leanings, I surely don't agree with them putting left-leaning bias in their software algos or whatever but at the end of the day, those and many like those are good for our society. I rather we have these guys and their companies in the US, regardless of politics, rather than them be from China or Europe and providing benefit for those other places.
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Nov 16 2023 02:54pm
Lol. Putin bots are strong supporters. It's how they get their vodka.
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