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Oct 3 2023 04:13pm
Quote (JessiWan @ Oct 3 2023 04:57pm)
Ok I am no endocrinologist, however, I believe that puberty blockers sometimes do cause permanent changes. For example they might hasten or otherwise alter the normal puberty process such that a boy that could have grown to be 6 foot 2 is now only 5 foot 7. And the ends of his bones will fuse towards the end, and it doesn't matter if they try to reverse the course of these blockers, he cannot grow tall again and this would be permanent.


That's an interesting opinion. Could you back it up with evidence? I'd be interested in reading a rigorous study on the subject.
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Oct 3 2023 04:15pm
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That's an interesting opinion. Could you back it up with evidence? I'd be interested in reading a rigorous study on the subject.


I don't have any literature, it's just a thought that I have. I know that bones fuse and stop growing towards the end of puberty.
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Oct 3 2023 04:17pm
Quote (JessiWan @ Oct 3 2023 05:15pm)
I don't have any literature, it's just a thought that I have. I know that bones fuse and stop growing towards the end of puberty.


See, this is the real issue. There's lots of very specific opinions on the impacts of puberty blockers, but they are based on literally nothing.

If you had come back and said "yeah I read this review" or "yeah this hospitals website says it" or anything, we could have a convesation. "It's a thought I had" is not how science or evidence works.

Nobody against these procedures knows anything about them. They will not ever produce evidence for their thoughts because it's just passively absorbed from sources like LibsOfTiktok and taken as gospel.

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Oct 3 2023 04:19pm
Quote (NetflixAdaptationWidow @ Oct 3 2023 03:13pm)
I gave a link that is directly relavent.

There's no reason to post a literature review when the other side isn't actually interested in or capable of evaluating evidence.

It's only worth posting basic material and pointing out how monstrous they are being.




your link doesn't even support your statement of "with no adverse affects." nor is it a study.



"Other possible long-term side effects that are not yet known."

also implies that "The risks are well understood" is not necessarily true

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Quote (NetflixAdaptationWidow @ Oct 3 2023 03:17pm)
See, this is the real issue. There's lots of very specific opinions on the impacts of puberty blockers, but they are based on literally nothing.

If you had come back and said "yeah I read this review" or "yeah this hospitals website says it" or anything, we could have a convesation. "It's a thought I had" is not how science or evidence works.


But I am not asserting anything. I am not claiming anything. I am just putting forth an idea, a possibility, for people to discuss. And I think it has substance. It is common knowledge that human bones fuse after a certain time.
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Oct 3 2023 04:22pm
Quote (NetflixAdaptationWidow @ Oct 3 2023 03:17pm)
See, this is the real issue. There's lots of very specific opinions on the impacts of puberty blockers, but they are based on literally nothing.

If you had come back and said "yeah I read this review" or "yeah this hospitals website says it" or anything, we could have a convesation. "It's a thought I had" is not how science or evidence works.

Nobody against these procedures knows anything about them. They will not ever produce evidence for their thoughts because it's just passively absorbed from sources like LibsOfTiktok and taken as gospel.


your link says precisely what Jessiwan said
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Oct 3 2023 04:26pm
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your link says precisely what Jessiwan said


Which is why I asked for his source, because I knew exactly where you could find it, and wanted to demonstrate beyond any doubt the opinion wasn't based on evidence. Becasue if it was it would have been as easy as "it was in your link".
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Oct 3 2023 04:27pm
Quote (majorblood @ Oct 3 2023 05:19pm)
your link doesn't even support your statement of "with no adverse affects." nor is it a study.

https://i.imgur.com/94g8zBZ.png

"Other possible long-term side effects that are not yet known."

also implies that "The risks are well understood" is not necessarily true


I didn't say they have no potential adverse effects. I said they are used frequently without adverse affects. Which is true. You can often take medication and have no significant side effects, even if those side effects are possible.
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Which is why I asked for his source, because I knew exactly where you could find it, and wanted to demonstrate beyond any doubt the opinion wasn't based on evidence. Becasue if it was it would have been as easy as "it was in your link".


It's not an opinion though. It's a possibility that hasn't been completely ruled out. I think we should discuss it if we are to be responsible.
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Oct 3 2023 04:31pm
Quote (JessiWan @ Oct 3 2023 05:30pm)
It's not an opinion though. It's a possibility that hasn't been completely ruled out. I think we should discuss it if we are to be responsible.


It's possible if you post againn you will develop aids.

It hasn't been ruled out.

I don't think you should risk it.

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