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Jun 6 2023 01:34pm
Quote (Black XistenZ @ Jun 6 2023 02:31pm)
A bar that you yourself don't clear if I recall correctly. Aren't you on the record saying that violence can be an acceptable, perhaps even necessary, form of protest? Similarly, I can't remember you ever condemning the violence and destruction which was taking place during the Floyd riots.


Violence absolutely can be an acceptable form of protest if the situation is bad enough. Literally everybody thinks that. John Brown is an abolitionist hero for a reason.

In this case the situation is totally fabricated. Kids aren't being forces to transition and there is no conspiracy to rape kids (outside of the half dozen major Christian churches where it actually exists)

See, the difference is the objective facts of the situation. I know that's hard for you to understand, but some situations are genuinely worse than others and therefore necessitates a different response.

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Violence absolutely can be an acceptable form of protest if the situation is bad enough. Literally everybody thinks that. John Brown is an abolitionist hero for a reason.

In this case the situation is totally fabricated. Kids aren't being forces to transition and there is no conspiracy to rape kids (outside of the half dozen major Christian churches where it actually exists)

See, the difference is the objective facts of the situation. I know that's hard for you to understand, but some situations are genuinely worse than others and therefore necessitates a different response.


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Not surprised somebody who spent yesterday railing against the concept of evidence would say something this brain dead
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Jun 6 2023 01:46pm
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Violence absolutely can be an acceptable form of protest if the situation is bad enough.

In this case the situation is totally fabricated.

See, the difference is the objective facts of the situation. I know that's hard for you to understand, but some situations are genuinely worse than others and therefore necessitates a different response.

tldr: "It's (D)ifferent".

Your stance isn't principled or consistent, it's self-righteous. Different sides disagreeing on the merit, severity and urgency of issues is the very core of politics. Postulating that your own side's perspective is the universal, undeniable truth, that the issue your sides cares about are objectively important while the other side's issues are objectively illegitimate, is not a sufficient justification to endorse political violence. It boils down to "I am right and you are wrong, and because I am right, I'm justified in bashing your head in if you disagree or resist".

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Jun 6 2023 01:49pm
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tldr: "It's (D)ifferent".

Your stance isn't principled or consistent, it's self-righteous. Different sides disagreeing on the merit, severity and urgency of issues is the very core of politics. Postulating that your own side's perspective is the universal, undeniable truth, that the issue your sides cares about are objectively important while the other side's issues are objectively illegitimate, is not a sufficient justification to endorse political violence. It boils down to "I am right and you are wrong, and because I am right, I'm justified in bashing your head in if you disagree or resist".


Nah, it's literally just looking at the facts presented.

I get when you do that it's uncomfortable but you have to do it.


Blacks are undeniably still oppressed and murdered by police in America.

Trans people are a tiny minority oppressing basically nobody and the entire issue is a blatant fabrication in contrast to best medical practices.

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Jun 6 2023 01:53pm
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Nah, it's literally just looking at the facts presented.

I get when you do that it's uncomfortable but you have to do it.


Blacks are undeniably still oppressed and murdered by police in America.

Trans people are a tiny minority oppressing basically nobody and the entire issue is a blatant fabrication in contrast to best medical practices.


You mean like that ?

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Ah man a black guy did a violent thing. Good thing you're here to extrapolate it to every black person and issue.

At least you aren't hiding your blatant racism anymore.
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Jun 6 2023 01:58pm
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Ah man a black guy did a violent thing. Good thing you're here to extrapolate it to every black person and issue.

At least you aren't hiding your blatant racism anymore.


Wow charges dropped

Question, why always elderly and woman ?

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Jun 6 2023 02:01pm
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Not surprised somebody who spent yesterday railing against the concept of evidence would say something this brain dead


Lol jeez a little touchy aren't ya? :P

And I tried my best to explain yesterday but you know the saying "you can lead a horse to water, but you can't make it drink"?

Well you are the horse :bonk:
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Jun 6 2023 02:04pm
Quote (Black XistenZ @ 6 Jun 2023 21:46)
tldr: "It's (D)ifferent".

Your stance isn't principled or consistent, it's self-righteous. Different sides disagreeing on the merit, severity and urgency of issues is the very core of politics. Postulating that your own side's perspective is the universal, undeniable truth, that the issue your sides cares about are objectively important while the other side's issues are objectively illegitimate, is not a sufficient justification to endorse political violence. It boils down to "I am right and you are wrong, and because I am right, I'm justified in bashing your head in if you disagree or resist".


you being unable to distinguish between actual oppression and tyranny on one side, and made up cultural war BS on the other, does NOT mean that proposing different reactions to different situations is therefore inconsistent, lol. that's what happens when you try to explain away injustices and discrimination with moronic bothsidesisms and false equivalences.

acknowledging the difference between systemic and fabricated issues is NOT pretending to be the arbiter of truth, it's just common sense and not being in a cult.
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