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Apr 17 2023 05:47pm
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Ah yes. You don't have a strong opinion on the subject, but you'll make firm statements like

"If we want to truly help trans people not kill themselves we should be coaching them to never enter sports, wear gender neutral clothing, choose a gender neutral name, and avoid discussing themselves at all."

See, when people don't actually have strong opinions they don't tend to make firm affirmative testable statements like you have this entire time. Poor me for reading those unambiguous statements made in support of an argument as you believing them.


I speak with firmness on anything I have an opinion on. That's only a problem if u can't change your opinion or even do a full 180. I can so why pussyfoot around pard has no consequences

Also regardless of clinical treatments we can actually expect that quote is true af and we both know it i think. Passing would reduce suicide a lot on the macro scale for every suicide due to them not being their true self. Bullying and lack of acceptance are clearly more causal factors than stifling self expression

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Apr 17 2023 06:59pm
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But thats just watchdog journalism. If you spew vitriolic shit, why act surprised when media wants to cover it? Thats just childish, wanting to say and do stuff without consequences. If youre scared from being ostracized after spewing hostile shit, youre either 1) too weak and a mere loudmouth 2) dont have an adequately formulated opinion that withstands criticism.


As if all media reports on is hate related issues pertaining transgenderism. I really don’t give a fuck you think since you think it’s better to just be quiet and hope it goes away lol.
You want people to be silent and hope it goes away, I want people to be vocal about not liking them and eventually they will go back to their holes shamefully once they realize the majority is not going to stand for their shit. Your plan is weak and you are part of the problem.

Dems play hardball and win.
Republicans need to start doing the same.

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Apr 17 2023 08:14pm
I havent kept up with the JK rowling trans saga. I doubt she will be hurt by all this. If anything she might be using it to get publicity.

Jobs are based on selling things though, which is bad if you say something that makes customers mad. So its a gray area at best. Society used to have a consensus on the issue, now the aggregate opinions have changed.
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card carrying liberal JK rowling gives money to someone who also took money from conservative group. wow, the crimes of voldemort himself pail in comparison to this terrible act.

im sure that few hundred k she gave to a TERF startup will cause hundreds of times more harm than the hundreds of millions she's given to charity for disadvantaged youths and battered women. when people realize she's donating money to LITERAL HITLER trans kids will kill themselves immediately and it will be all her fault, the bloods on her hands.

she ate lunch with some people and gave them money to go on a fruitless legislative lobbying crusade to rollback trans rights. jk knows laws arent changing, so do those she gave money to. the only people scared are reactionary idiots who think London is rural Alabama.

honestly i think your side would have a lot easier time getting people to agree with you if you just weren't so incredibly soft. very low T energy on this issue. so many better people to go after, but the snake does love to eat itself.


any genuinely open-minded person would actually look at the evidence (which i provided in an earlier thread about rowling) and realise that your favoured narrative, of her repeatedly funding and platforming "casual acquaintances", who she merely had lunch with once, and of whose background and political agenda she couldn't possibly know about, is blatantly wrong. she knows. they are friends. she jokes about it. she blocks people who point that out. she's not retarded, just a bigot.

you don't judge this situation based on evidence, you judge it based on feelings. you don't change your mind because you don't want to, not because the evidence of rowling being a bigot is not there.

i can see where you're coming from. you're a potter fanboy, and trans rights don't mean anything to you or anyone you personally care about - so you're willing to "sacrifice" them on the altar of "based-ness". that's ok, of course - freedom of opinion is a thing. just don't pretend you're being a principled or open-minded person on this issue when you so clearly aren't.

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Apr 18 2023 03:37am
The stuff she tends to call out is just extremely trivial. So what if some idiot uses the phrase "people who menstruate". The fact that she focuses on all of this stuff so much is the only evidence you need that she's a terf.

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Apr 18 2023 06:18am
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any genuinely open-minded person would actually look at the evidence (which i provided in an earlier thread about rowling) and realise that your favoured narrative, of her repeatedly funding and platforming "casual acquaintances", who she merely had lunch with once, and of whose background and political agenda she couldn't possibly know about, is blatantly wrong. she knows. they are friends. she jokes about it. she blocks people who point that out. she's not retarded, just a bigot.

you don't judge this situation based on evidence, you judge it based on feelings. you don't change your mind because you don't want to, not because the evidence of rowling being a bigot is not there.

i can see where you're coming from. you're a potter fanboy, and trans rights don't mean anything to you or anyone you personally care about - so you're willing to "sacrifice" them on the altar of "based-ness". that's ok, of course - freedom of opinion is a thing. just don't pretend you're being a principled or open-minded person on this issue when you so clearly aren't.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EmT0i0xG6zg


ive changed my mind quite a bit on this topic, actually. the biggest issue is people reading sardonic phrases like "went to lunch" literally, like WAY too literally. i'm not NPR, i try to use a bit of panache.

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Apr 18 2023 06:23am
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The stuff she tends to call out is just extremely trivial. So what if some idiot uses the phrase "people who menstruate". The fact that she focuses on all of this stuff so much is the only evidence you need that she's a terf.


literally had to look up what a "terf" is

and i thought there couldnt be more retarded nonsense in this debate
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literally had to look up what a "terf" is

and i thought there couldnt be more retarded nonsense in this debate


easy with the terf word buddy, being one of those is as bad as a nazi

Quote (thesnipa @ Apr 18 2023 08:18am)
ive changed my mind quite a bit on this topic, actually. the biggest issue is people reading sardonic phrases like "went to lunch" literally, like WAY too literally. i'm not NPR, i try to use a bit of panache.


same tbh

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Apr 18 2023 06:52am
If the LGBTQ+ community is a fringe-minority, wouldn't their time be better spent advocating and lobbying around policy that benefits them? Pareto principle elusive to these people it seems.

Meanwhile, Jk's Hogfarts has spewed 12 million unit sales. More than 2x other AAA titles like Mass Effect 4.
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Apr 18 2023 08:27am
Quote (JohnnyMcCoy @ Apr 18 2023 02:23pm)
I can't formulate what's wrong with it, so I'll just call it retarded.


Fixed?

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