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I ignore her everywhere because she's just a "Sprechpuppe" with no substancr or backbone of her own promoted to the position by their rich parents and WEF against the will of the greens themselves ( they would've gotten more votes with Habeck alone as their spearhead). She is too dumb to even play her puppet role. Time for a new gouvernment. Verdi calls for a strike this winter. Read about it. State media can't frame verdi as rightwing or Querdenker to oust us out of the way. We can kick their a** out of their positiins together.


How exactly would a new government improve anything? The only realistic alternative would be the Christian Democrats (CDU) replacing one or two of the current members of the government coalition - the CDU whose leader had called for a complete gas embargo back in March, which would have been a total disaster. Generally speaking, no other German party is more hawkish or more infested by WEF/corporate interests than the CDU. The by far most likely outcome of a new election would be a coalition between the CDU and the Greens, lol.

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How exactly would a new government improve anything? The only realistic alternative would be the Christian Democrats (CDU) replacing one or two of the current members of the government coalition - the CDU whose leader had called for a complete gas embargo back in March, which would have been a total disaster. Generally speaking, no other German party is more hawkish or more infested by WEF/corporate interests than the CDU. The by far most likely outcome of a new election would be a coalition between the CDU and the Greens, lol.


thats the government vs opposition game for ya, the CDU demands a gas embargo in the opposition, no way they do it in charge

same with the social democrats and green party, imagine their shitstorm when a CDU guy bows to the emir of qatar or begs colombia for coal

and to address your first sentence, no other government is gonna improve shit

game over
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thats the government vs opposition game for ya, the CDU demands a gas embargo in the opposition, no way they do it in charge

same with the social democrats and green party, imagine their shitstorm when a CDU guy bows to the emir of qatar or begs colombia for coal

and to address your first sentence, no other government is gonna improve shit

game over

Opposition vs government, okay, fine. What I said is still true: the CDU is the most hawkish German party, a CDU/Green coalition would definitely not be any softer on sanctions or arms sales. ;)

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How exactly would a new government improve anything? The only realistic alternative would be the Christian Democrats (CDU) replacing one or two of the current members of the government coalition - the CDU whose leader had called for a complete gas embargo back in March, which would have been a total disaster. Generally speaking, no other German party is more hawkish or more infested by WEF/corporate interests than the CDU. The by far most likely outcome of a new election would be a coalition between the CDU and the Greens, lol.

Greens would come out much weaker, FDP stronger and they'd get a message they've got a mandate a pissed off population could take back any time. The message is very important.

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Greens would come out much weaker, FDP stronger and they'd get a message they've got a mandate a pissed off population could take back any time. The message is very important.


Polls consistently show the opposite: the Greens coming out stronger while the SPD and FDP would be weakened. Now, the Greens have always been the "polls champion" and never been able to fully translate their polls into actual election results, so some degree of underperformance would be expected - but I have a hard time seeing them polling at 24% and then finishing below the 14.8% they got in the 2021 election.

Things might of course change if a snap election took place later this winter, when even the low info voters got to experience exploding gas and energy prices first-hand.

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Opposition vs government, okay, fine. What I said is still true: the CDU is the most hawkish German party, a CDU/Green coalition would definitely not be any softer on sanctions or arms sales. ;)


yep, cant argue with that at all
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Von der Leyen threatened maximum price for Russian oil+gas. Gasprom stopped all gas delivery through NS1. When will we get rid of that failure woman we didn't elect?
She ruined every place she went.
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Von der Leyen threatened maximum price for Russian oil+gas. Gasprom stopped all gas delivery through NS1. When will we get rid of that failure woman we didn't elect?
She ruined every place she went.


from failing in multiple positions in the german federal government, being under investigation for all kinds of criminal acts to then becoming EU boss without ever being on the ballot (only to do the same corruption and money wasting there too)

truly inspiring story ^_^

at this point people have to "vote with their feet" as we say in german, dont play the game, do whatever it takes to get out, leave
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from failing in multiple positions in the german federal government, being under investigation for all kinds of criminal acts to then becoming EU boss without ever being on the ballot (only to do the same corruption and money wasting there too)

truly inspiring story ^_^

at this point people have to "vote with their feet" as we say in german, dont play the game, do whatever it takes to get out, leave


What's also funny is how the liberal media repeatedly praised von der Leyen as a feminist role model, having pulled off "an impressive career as a mother of 7". They don't mention that she's literally the scion of a rich and influential aristocratic family who could afford all the nannies and maids she needed, plus the family connections to supercharge her political career.

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What's also funny is how the liberal media repeatedly praised von der Leyen as a feminist role model, having pulled off "an impressive career as a mother of 7". They don't mention that she's literally the scion of a rich and influential aristocratic family who could afford all the nannies and maids she needed, plus the family connections to supercharge her political career.


somehow people fall for this when it only needs a 2 minute research to reveal that, as you said, she is the ultimate, elitist swamp demon
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