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Aug 18 2021 09:59pm
Quote (ofthevoid @ 18 Aug 2021 20:08)
What does this even mean lol. His admin negotiated some conditions between the Taliban & govt mostly generalities. What infrastructure are you expecting? Those are tactical decisions to be made, his administration wasn't going to sit there and plan flights a year ahead of a withdrawal, that's retarded.

The real failure here is the military's planning. They were blindsided by the Taliban's ability to negotiate surrenders with tribal chiefs and they were completely unprepared logistically. Trump's not at fault for that and unless you have to at least try to be honest with yourself that those types of details are not talked about on such a long timeline.

Biden at the very least should quietly relieve some generals of their command. This is a colossal failure on their side.

he might be inadvertently referring to this: https://www.google.com/amp/s/news.yahoo.com/amphtml/biden-admin-moved-dismantle-protections-214937786.html

Biden admin moved to dismantle protections for citizens trapped overseas months before Kabul’s fall: memo
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Houston Keene, Rich Edson
August 18, 2021, 5:49 pm
The Biden administration moved in June to dismantle a system designed to protect American citizens trapped abroad — just months before the Taliban took over Afghanistan, stranding thousands of Americans in the Central Asian country.

Fox News has obtained the June 11 memo sent around the State Department which gave the green light on the "discontinuation of the establishment, and the termination of, the Contingency and Crisis Response Bureau (CCR)."

The sensitive but unclassified memo was signed by Deputy Secretary of State Brian McKeon, just a couple of months before the Biden administration’s botched troop withdrawal that saw Afghanistan fall under Taliban control.

CCR was formed under Trump-era Secretary of State Mike Pompeo and was tasked with providing "aviation, logistics, and medical support capabilities for the Department's operational bureaus, thereby enhancing the secretary's ability to protect American citizens overseas in connection with overseas evacuations in the aftermath of a natural or man-made disaster."

The agency could have played a role in the response to the Taliban’s takeover of Afghanistan, where thousands of American citizens and allies are trapped behind terrorist lines.


there were apparatuses in place for contingency/crisis responses such as evacuation, but the harris/biden administration paused them

or he just got the lefty infrastructure bill talking points and lefty afghanistan rhetoric conflated. happens to people like him a lot

inb4 “faux news”, “the govt said the program wasnt legit because of Trump” etc.

Quote (JohnnyMcCoy @ 18 Aug 2021 20:31)
honestly, i dont believe that in a million years

are they really trying to tell me that billion dollar intelligence agencies with more spies than the rest of the world except china combined and so many veterans on the ground didnt predict that this "army" is complete garbage?

oh i dont buy it either. so it’s either a blatant lie or admission of full-on incompetence -_-
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Aug 19 2021 12:34am
Quote (ofthevoid @ Aug 18 2021 05:08pm)
What does this even mean lol. His admin negotiated some conditions between the Taliban & govt mostly generalities. What infrastructure are you expecting? Those are tactical decisions to be made, his administration wasn't going to sit there and plan flights a year+ ahead of a withdrawal, that's retarded.

The real failure here is the military's planning. They were blindsided by the Taliban's ability to negotiate surrenders with tribal chiefs and they were completely unprepared logistically. Trump's not at fault for that you have to at least try to be honest with yourself that those types of details are not talked about on such a long timeline.

Biden at the very least should quietly relieve some generals of their command. This is a colossal failure on their side.


I think this a pretty reasonable take. I definitely want to see some officials under oath so we can know what happened and how to prevent it in the future.
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Aug 19 2021 02:04am
Quote (Black XistenZ @ 18 Aug 2021 17:16)
Sure, nobody expected it to happen this quickly, myself included.


Nobody? What are you talking about? Biden delayed the withdrawal intentionally without any form of reason or plan. The Taliban directly warned that there would be renewed attacks against Americans and those who worked with them if we failed to hold to our agreements.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/national-security/biden-us-troop-withdrawal-afghanistan/2021/04/13/918c3cae-9beb-11eb-8a83-3bc1fa69c2e8_story.html
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Aug 19 2021 08:49am
What are the odds that Biden is leaving American soldiers stranded in Afghanistan because they don't vote Democrat?

Quote (NetflixAdaptationWidow @ Aug 18 2021 08:36pm)
It would have been a 40+ year affair to actually build them into a stable nation. We would have basically created a nation from nothing. A noble endeavor if done properly, but we obviously weren't interested in doing it properly, so we should have been out around 2009 when our intelligence said there were less than 100 Al Qaeda operatives left in the country.

I think you are misunderstanding the agreement. We aren't allowed to fight the Taliban and they aren't allowed to fight us. They have largely abided by our attempts to evacuate. If we brought in 10k troops to support local leaders and the Afghani army in pushing off the Taliban then the entire agreement is off and the Taliban starts slaughtering the people we are trying to protect. Your suggestion would be the perfect opposite of what needs to happen and is the only way to absolutely guarantee we can't get anybody out. It would actually guarantee we remain in the country, which is again the exact opposite of the goal.

You don't get the benefit of hindsight when making preparation. Again, nobody thought they would take Kabul within a few days. The preparation you are suggesting would have resulted in the current situation being a guarantee, which is not what you do when you prep for the worst case scenario.


WE stayed there to babysit their poppy plantations.

Main criticism against B man is that if Trump was in charge of the pullout, we wouldn't have Americans stranded there.

This post was edited by EndlessSky on Aug 19 2021 09:02am
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Aug 19 2021 09:25am
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2 hours ago — Joe Biden: "Taliban Going Through 'Existential Crisis'
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Quote (EndlessSky @ Aug 19 2021 09:49am)
What are the odds that Biden is leaving American soldiers stranded in Afghanistan because they don't vote Democrat?

WE stayed there to babysit their poppy plantations.

Main criticism against B man is that if Trump was in charge of the pullout, we wouldn't have Americans stranded there.


Not a chance in hell Trump's pullout was any smoother.

For one he had an even faster time table to get everything done, and for two Biden is working with all the same plans and people that Trump left.

The only thing I see that could have been done better by Biden is streamlining the visa process to get our interpreters out. Everything else results in worse outcomes if we try to prevent it.
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Aug 19 2021 09:33am
Quote (NetflixAdaptationWidow @ Aug 19 2021 08:29am)
Not a chance in hell Trump's pullout was any smoother.

For one he had an even faster time table to get everything done, and for two Biden is working with all the same plans and people that Trump left.

The only thing I see that could have been done better by Biden is streamlining the visa process to get our interpreters out. Everything else results in worse outcomes if we try to prevent it.


man.............. you can pile out BS on anything

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Aug 19 2021 09:36am
Quote (NetflixAdaptationWidow @ Aug 19 2021 04:29pm)
Not a chance in hell Trump's pullout was any smoother.

For one he had an even faster time table to get everything done, and for two Biden is working with all the same plans and people that Trump left.

The only thing I see that could have been done better by Biden is streamlining the visa process to get our interpreters out. Everything else results in worse outcomes if we try to prevent it.


trump's potential pullout is irrelevant since it never happened. biden's did and it's total garbage.
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Aug 19 2021 09:38am
Quote (NetflixAdaptationWidow @ Aug 19 2021 11:29am)
Not a chance in hell Trump's pullout was any smoother.

For one he had an even faster time table to get everything done, and for two Biden is working with all the same plans and people that Trump left.

The only thing I see that could have been done better by Biden is streamlining the visa process to get our interpreters out. Everything else results in worse outcomes if we try to prevent it.


Lol
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Aug 19 2021 09:49am
Quote (EndlessSky @ Aug 19 2021 10:38am)
Lol


the idea we'd get out better in less time is hilarious.

except maybe agent orange could have convinced MTG, LoBob, and co. to approve visas of some refugees instead of denying them then complaining biden left them to die.
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