Quote (Goomshill @ Aug 17 2021 02:15am)

Joe Biden was untested on foreign policy until now. Trump's first real showdown was chemical weapons in Syria, and he passed with flying colors. He went on to have a successful run at foreign policy. Now Joe Biden got his first taste of foreign entanglement, and it was an unmitigated disaster, the worst handled crisis by the US in 20-40 years. I was hopeful that this would be one area Joe Biden could beat Obama at, given how low the bar was set with the Arab Spring and Libya and ISIS and Iraq withdrawal and Syria and Ukraine/Crimea and Egypt and damn it was a laundry list of failures.

Well its a hard race to the bottom yet Joe.

Quote (Saucisson6000 @ Aug 17 2021 11:35am)

You should take it easy on Biden; the guy is old, close to death there's not much doubt about it: he had several seizures already and a long road of big dramas in his personal life.
Yes you should take it easy because the old man don't care much about himself anymore, more like he still wants to apply what's best on his eyes for his country, your cuntry; the usexa !
He's also pretty much a centrist, even little bit of a republican.
Btw can't wait for general o.cortez to take the lead by force (but this is my personal opinion).

Quote (EndlessSky @ Aug 17 2021 10:29am)

I think the real question in peoples’ minds is “how bad will Biden/Harris have to do before they get kicked out?”

Reagan had a landslide because of this in the 80’s but America was different then. Even after a horrifically bad presidency its hard to see anything more than a narrow victory for Republicans anymore.

Quote (Saucisson6000 @ Aug 17 2021 11:35am)

You should take it easy on Biden; the guy is old, close to death there's not much doubt about it: he had several seizures already and a long road of big dramas in his personal life.
Yes you should take it easy because the old man don't care much about himself anymore, more like he still wants to apply what's best on his eyes for his country, your cuntry; the usexa !
He's also pretty much a centrist, even little bit of a republican.
Btw can't wait for general o.cortez to take the lead by force (but this is my personal opinion).

Quote (EndlessSky @ Aug 17 2021 11:51am)

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Then he just die early and save himself from the cruel words.

Quote (SunnyvaleTrailerPark @ Aug 17 2021 12:11pm)

That was expected. US shown huge weakness when they pulled out which is why nobody ever did it before. Now enemies will use that to scare our allies telling them ,we can defend you, if you don't join us, better hope US will.

Americans high ranking official are kinda stupid. They should played war games their whole lives. Nobody pull out when China is flexing on Taiwan. You show force. What is it to spend 4-5 more years on Afghanistan when we already invested 20 years, countless soldiers lives.

Now China just became instantly stronger.

I legit hope you guys learning Mandarin NOW!

From there, itll snowball.

I been saying it for years, there a timer above USA . You guys killed lot of people abroad and these people remember. It's a matter of time since they use Canada+South America going at you knowing Trudeau is hand in hand with China and he will mostly be elected again . Im 200% sure dominion will have something to do with it.

Quote (thesnipa @ Aug 17 2021 01:24pm)

it cost about 300m$/day

Quote (SunnyvaleTrailerPark @ Aug 17 2021 12:30pm)

Bro, at this point we freely print money and it's a known fact. What's 300m a day at this point to avoid China taking all our allies 1 by 1 because god know how easy it is to scare people and manipulate them. Just look at Covid how many people went bat shit crazy. Some people committed suicide being that scared and hopeless.

Remember y2k bug people were scared of? How many people committed suicide?

The mass is dumb and it's a problem.

Quote (Black XistenZ @ Aug 17 2021 04:01am)

Oh, I think this will weigh on Biden and Democrats at the margins. Sure, the rubes don't give a flying fuck about anything that's happening to Afghanistan, but they do care about projecting strength. Biden being responsible for the most visual display of American weakness on the international stage in decades will reinforce their belief that Biden is a weak president who will lead the country into avoidable defeat. Likewise, the high info swing voters form the suburbs care about executive competence and a stable, reliable foreign policy. Trump being an erratic maniac was one of the reasons this type of voter ran away from him in droves. Biden proving that his foreign policy is not actually more reliable or competent is a blow to the central pitch from his 2020 campaign ("return to normalcy and having the 'adults in the room' run the show again).

Of course none of this is gonna be more salient than kitchen table issues, but it will make for great GOP campaign clips depicting Joe Biden's America in freefall. I believe that this stuff can absolutely make the difference at the margins, and with the balance of power being as ultra-tightly balanced as it is, these margins might have huge consequences.