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Mar 9 2020 06:13pm
Maher and other rich leftist elites are finally getting their wish.

Economy is crashing and Trump undoubtedly will be blamed for it, at least by them. Would be poetic justice if Maher is balls deep in stocks and is losing millions.
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Quote (zarkadon @ 10 Mar 2020 00:40)
Well, like I said before in an earlier post, the government should try to protect the sick and elderly by isolating THEM, and provide what ever means are reasonably possible to help them. What they shouldn't do is shut down a significant chunk of the economy, scare the world's markets, and restrict the people's freedom.

Not to mention that some of the measures they are implementing cause the opposite effect of what they aim for. Things like shutting down schools is absurd considering children have very little risk of suffering any potentially threatening consequences, only leads to the grandparents having to baby sit them (since the parents are off working)... which means that if the children are infected (which we can't know since there's a two week latency period) then they are going to spread the disease to their vulnerable grandparents.


Don't you think this "solution" have been already considered ?


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Maher and other rich leftist elites are finally getting their wish.

Economy is crashing and Trump undoubtedly will be blamed for it, at least by them. Would be poetic justice if Maher is balls deep in stocks and is losing millions.


He deserve to be blamed for his irresponsible behavior regarding this pandemic.
He probably deserve to be blamed for the "economy" (deficit)
Social tension is a passive factor on economy, he completely fucked up this department, dividing people like no tomorrow.
/e this said your democrat establishment is shit too.

Quote (Skinned @ 10 Mar 2020 00:07)
Trump would drop pretty quick, he is an obese geriatric man who probably eats like shit. Pence would probably survive it, he looks tough. He could probably sustain himself off of shoe leather. But if not...President Pelosi!


Skelosi

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Trump would drop pretty quick, he is an obese geriatric man who probably eats like shit. Pence would probably survive it, he looks tough. He could probably sustain himself off of shoe leather. But if not...President Pelosi!


She's 79, and probably has plenty to fear herself.

Quote (zarkadon @ Mar 9 2020 06:13pm)
The markets are looking grim because of all the hysteria the media produces over a virus with a low death rate among the productive population, and most importantly, because of the harsh decisions the governments are implementing or might be considering implementing... the markets don't crash because they fear a virus, but because they fear the economic consequences of a government shutting down the economy, as well as the uncertainty a hysterical society create.

As for how much we value life... well, it does depend on what lives. Lives are very valuable, all of them, but our standard of life is in our national interest, and if lives were always above that then there would never be people being sent off to wars. We allow people to drive despite the roads killing thousands each years, we allow people to drink despite alcohol ruining (or ending) the lives of a small percentage of the population... we can't just give up freedom and the way our society functions over some disease that will kill a tiny fraction of the population that has very limited impact on the national GDP. A nation's leader shouldn't allow fear and romanticism to hold the national economy hostage.


The thing is, most everyone knows old people they hold dear (themselves included). I don't worry too much what might happen to myself, my wife, or my children, but I and my wife both have parents in their 70s. If I have to stay home to keep them safe, that's a decision worth considering.

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Wow so Italy is now completely quarantined, people can only go to work, no events allowed, no weddings, nothing.
60.millions people, decision maybe triggered by the lack of respiratory systems in intensive care units.
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Imagination if citizens have to start to pay a tax to maintain financial markets :evil:

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Mar 10 2020 01:03am
cnn employee: calling it chinese coronavirus is racist

https://twitter.com/KyungLahCNN/status/1237193107990446080

other cnn employees on jan. 21st
"A new Chinese coronavirus, a cousin of the SARS virus, has infected more than 200 people since the outbreak began in Wuhan, China"

https://cnnphilippines.com/world/2020/1/21/Coronavirus-fast-facts.html?fbclid=IwAR139guyikn51738HXt07Dsmq-qQ9Bl-teA4PjPI5mIbf2VZCG63bKIzTnk
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Mar 10 2020 01:11am
I remember when the media tried to run wild with n1h1 too. The president waited 6 months then to cave into pressure and declare a state of emergency. Today it’s treated with Tamiflu and is no longer an issue outside the high risk groups in which all sickness can be fatal.
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Quote (PowerTripped @ 10 Mar 2020 08:11)
I remember when the media tried to run wild with n1h1 too. The president waited 6 months then to cave into pressure and declare a state of emergency. Today it’s treated with Tamiflu and is no longer an issue outside the high risk groups in which all sickness can be fatal.


h1n1 never caused as many fatalities as 2019-nCov does, and it never spread as rapidly. those two diseases are entirely different kinds of beast.

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Quote (zarkadon @ 10 Mar 2020 00:13)
The markets are looking grim because of all the hysteria the media produces over a virus with a low death rate among the productive population, and most importantly, because of the harsh decisions the governments are implementing or might be considering implementing... the markets don't crash because they fear a virus, but because they fear the economic consequences of a government shutting down the economy, as well as the uncertainty a hysterical society create.

As for how much we value life... well, it does depend on what lives. Lives are very valuable, all of them, but our standard of life is in our national interest, and if lives were always above that then there would never be people being sent off to wars. We allow people to drive despite the roads killing thousands each years, we allow people to drink despite alcohol ruining (or ending) the lives of a small percentage of the population... we can't just give up freedom and the way our society functions over some disease that will kill a tiny fraction of the population that has very limited impact on the national GDP. A nation's leader shouldn't allow fear and romanticism to hold the national economy hostage.


did you just overlook the fact that people from different villages / cities / regions gathering in small rooms, and then going back to their families (like in schools for example), is actually how this shit SPREADS, trying to suggest that's somehow a counter-productive measure (too bad all the experts are so terribly wrong, and don't share your insight and wisdom of how to contain pandemics), or did you deliberately ignore that?
i mean, the fact that you're making some pretty ludicrous and flawed analogies (like between containing a virus without a vaccine in sight, and banning cars) clearly indicates you're doing it on purpose, but i'm really not sure, since it's so ridiculously stupid and dishonest, that it seems very out of character considering most of your other posts here. have you put all your savings into stock, or why are you so completely unreasonable about this? it's really mindboggling.

i mean sure, there certainly are people who are unreasonably hysterical about this, but i don't think that describes most western governments - which are ALL incredibly aware of the economic impact their decisions have. again, italy has plenty of reasons (highest percentage of infected citizens worldwide / with over 450 dead the 2nd most behind only china / 8,000 active cases...) to implement some pretty fucking drastic measures, and as far as i can tell, there is no significant dissent amongst health experts about it - if anything, they are alarmed about the relative passiveness in other nations, still holding mass events in demonstrably infected regions for example.
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