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Deputy leader of the Labour Party petitions Google/Youtube to ban Tommy Robinson, threatens censorship via legislation is on the way

https://twitter.com/tom_watson/status/1101931566387941376
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Deputy leader of the Labour Party petitions Google/Youtube to ban Tommy Robinson, threatens censorship via legislation is on the way

https://twitter.com/tom_watson/status/1101931566387941376


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Mar 3 2019 08:45am
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Deputy leader of the Labour Party petitions Google/Youtube to ban Tommy Robinson, threatens censorship via legislation is on the way

https://twitter.com/tom_watson/status/1101931566387941376


Tom has been getting a lot of flak from the Corbyn cult recently for speaking out against their rampant anti-semitism, so this letter was written to keep them onside, as their usual retort is, "but what about Islamophobia?"

It's important to make the distinction that private businesses suspending channels violating their terms doesn't amount to censorship. However, if the decision is made by the government, then it is.


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Quote (dro94 @ 3 Mar 2019 15:45)
Tom has been getting a lot of flak from the Corbyn cult recently for speaking out against their rampant anti-semitism, so this letter was written to keep them onside, as their usual retort is, "but what about Islamophobia?"

It's important to make the distinction that private businesses suspending channels violating their terms doesn't amount to censorship. However, if the decision is made by the government, then it is.


I would go even further: if a private business holds a quasi-monopoly, like facebook or youtube do, then they should be subject to stricter rules about which behavior is suspension-worthy. Censorship coming from social media giants and their own political agenda isnt any better than censorship coming from the government.

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Quote (Black XistenZ @ Mar 3 2019 04:09pm)
I would go even further: if a private business holds a quasi-monopoly, like facebook or youtube do, then they should be subject to stricter rules about which behavior is suspension-worthy. Censorship coming from social media giants and their own political agenda isnt any better than censorship coming from the government.


The internet is a vast network operating as a free market for ideas and has near-unlimited uncensored content at the click of a button. There are little/no barriers of entry to hosting video content online, which is classically associated with Monopolies. Governments try, and mostly fail, to stop the dissemination of content they deem a threat - the failure to censor radical Islamist ideology online is a good example of this.

Why then, can't a competing firm host uncensored content from the likes of Tommy Robinson and Alex Jones and take away the revenue streams Youtube is foregoing by banning their channels? If the demand for their content exists then the free market will enable those channels to be viewed elsewhere and there isn't anything anyone can do about it.
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The internet is a vast network operating as a free market for ideas and has near-unlimited uncensored content at the click of a button. There are little/no barriers of entry to hosting video content online, which is classically associated with Monopolies. Governments try, and mostly fail, to stop the dissemination of content they deem a threat - the failure to censor radical Islamist ideology online is a good example of this.

Why then, can't a competing firm host uncensored content from the likes of Tommy Robinson and Alex Jones and take away the revenue streams Youtube is foregoing by banning their channels? If the demand for their content exists then the free market will enable those channels to be viewed elsewhere and there isn't anything anyone can do about it.


you dont understand how social media, or more generally speaking the "attention economy", is working.
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Mar 3 2019 01:10pm
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Deputy leader of the Labour Party petitions Google/Youtube to ban Tommy Robinson, threatens censorship via legislation is on the way

https://twitter.com/tom_watson/status/1101931566387941376


anti-semitism AND censorship
where have I seen this before?
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Rachael Swindon, a prominent pro-Corbyn and anti-semitic twitter account got banned from twitter today. The far left is outraged. So much for the 'political agenda' of social media giants.


Quote (Goomshill @ Mar 3 2019 08:10pm)
anti-semitism AND censorship
where have I seen this before?


UK labour party?
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Rachael Swindon, a prominent pro-Corbyn and anti-semitic twitter account got banned from twitter today. The far left is outraged. So much for the 'political agenda' of social media giants.


one counterexample doesnt disprove a mountain of evidence for their liberal bias. probably she just crossed a line with her anti-semitism, to the point where twitter couldnt look the other way any more.

you sound like one of those folks who say "I cannot possibly be a racist because I have one black friend!"

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one counterexample doesnt disprove a mountain of evidence for their liberal bias. probably she just crossed a line with her anti-semitism, to the point where twitter couldnt look the other way any more.

you sound like one of those folks who say "I cannot possibly be a racist because I have one friend who's black!"


you mean like exactly what happened with the right wing provocateurs held accountable for their actions?
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