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Quote (gnarjay @ Oct 9 2023 06:04pm)
yet here you are defending a regime that is treating its neighbors just like the Nazis treated the Jews, only this time its the Jews committing atrocities. you have no shame


I must have missed the part where Israel was shoving Palestinians into ovens and picking out the gold teeth.
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I must have missed the part where Israel was shoving Palestinians into ovens and picking out the gold teeth.
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his comparison makes sense if you deny the holocaust happened i guess, maybe that's his perspective?
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I must have missed the part where Israel was shoving Palestinians into ovens and picking out the gold teeth.
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youve missed a lot , apparently , but thats probably on purpose. easy to miss things when you only look for evidence that reinforces your already myopic worldview
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Quote (majorblood @ Oct 9 2023 06:29pm)
his comparison makes sense if you deny the holocaust happened i guess, maybe that's his perspective?


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Oct 9 2023 05:37pm
Israel appear to be going for nigh on scorched earth tactics.

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Oct 9 2023 05:42pm
Quote (Goomshill @ Oct 8 2023 11:01am)
Israel isn't going to flatten Gaza. Its simply too large and dense. Its a city of 2 million people packed in like sardines. Israel won't even be willing to cut off water services.

Hmm

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Oct 9 2023 06:13pm
Quote (JohnnyMcCoy @ 9 Oct 2023 23:34)
if somebody wants to say that the french and english screwed up after, thats surely a valid argument rt


Did germans oppose the idea ? :lol:

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Quote (Handcuffs @ Oct 10 2023 12:12am)
My interpretation of the history, is that there definitely is a geographical area referred to as Palestine to include people of a shared cultural and ethnic identity--with history, war, and Israel's expansion beyond The Green Line resulting in the Palestinian-inhabited Gaza Strip and The West Bank. Many, but not all, countries also recognize Palestine's existence. To suggest that "There has never been a Palestine" is a confusing argument to me. If people instead offered that the way in which Palestine came into existence is illegitimate, then I could at least understand that argument, as that doesn't detract from the reality that there is a Palestinian region.


there is an area for sure, but its kinda vague and it was never its own country, kingdom or anything

you could name plenty of geographical regions like that

in the german wiki it says that the arab understanding of palestine extends all way into syria and jordan, not just what we usually talk about here

if you go with that palestine should be gaza, west bank, israel, jordan, lebanon and southern syria, but you will never see that anywhere

they just want israel gone

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Quote (Handcuffs @ Oct 9 2023 05:12pm)
My interpretation of the history, is that there definitely is a geographical area referred to as Palestine to include people of a shared cultural and ethnic identity--with history, war, and Israel's expansion beyond The Green Line resulting in the Palestinian-inhabited Gaza Strip and The West Bank. Many, but not all, countries also recognize Palestine's existence. To suggest that "There has never been a Palestine" is a confusing argument to me. If people instead offered that the way in which Palestine came into existence is illegitimate, then I could at least understand that argument, as that doesn't detract from the reality that there is a Palestinian region.


The Green Line has never been a formal border. It represents where the front lines were in 1949 with the armistice concluding the Arab-Israeli War. It's important to note that while the international community generally views it as the borders of Israel/Palestine, neither Israel nor Palestine do.
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