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Feb 4 2024 01:39pm
Quote (Thor123422 @ 4 Feb 2024 13:28)
I didn't make fun of Bob at all. I genuinely hope he's doing better with his alcoholism (he admitted to drinking a liter of vodka a day, which is incredibly dangerous), and I hope he's nicer to his wife. He's told me before about how he "keeps her in line" (his words) so I genuinely hope that situation is better. He has told multiple users here that he would "hunt them down and shoot them like dogs", which is not something people in a good situation do, so I genuinely hope he's doing better now.

Also my degree is in biochemistry and I've worked using my degree the entire time I've been out of school. Been harder recently though with Pfizer flooding the market with layoffs, but you'll never go hungry with a biochemistry degree since hospitals are always hiring lab workers.

TBH this case is just open and shut. He made material misrepresentations to get a better deal that the bank relied on to make their loans. The misrepresentations weren't small mistakes, they were intentional misrepresentations. A real estate mogul signing off on a square footage 300% the actual value when he built and lived in the space is not something you get to hand waive away. Making an appraisal based on breaking up a lot that can't be broken up when you personally signed the agreement saying you can't is also not something you can say "I forgot" on. This fraud is so over the top it isn't even a good teaching tool because it's so obvious it doesn't encourage critical thought.


Just want you to admit that the judicial system is broken and it's blatantly obvious. If anyone of us was charged with the same crime you wouldn't hear about it but's its Donald Trump and he's running for President so let's mobilize MSM and any rigged courts to slander, slander, and slander again.

These are show trials. How you can't see that statistical bias is beyond me.

I don't even like Donald Trump. I don't even vote in the presidential election. I have ZERO political affiliation but I can see how unfair it is to just pile all these lawsuits on an individual. They literally all waited to drop these on Trump when they knew it would hurt him the most.

Do you see where I'm going with this.

I'm not talking about the legitimacy of a lawsuit I'm talking about the fairness and integrity of our judicial system when you see it weaponized even against someone as hated as Trump it's still wrong.

Like I said if you committed the exact same crimes(allegedly) would it be headline news? No because your not running for POTUS.

Imagine you were "hypothetically". You can't see how unfair that is? They dig up a bunch of dirt on you and just keep throwing it at you until most citizens are so sick of hearing about it?

Look at someone like Vivek Ramaswammy he was involved in a similar field as you and as soon as he became "political" he was TORCHED for building a "biotech company" and a myriad of other things.

You can say, "Oh that's just politics" but how is that a justification to slander someone with half truths into oblivion?

I don't know enough about politics so that's why I'm asking.

This post was edited by SwamiVivekananda on Feb 4 2024 01:47pm
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Feb 4 2024 01:44pm
Quote (SwamiVivekananda @ 4 Feb 2024 12:39)
Just want you to admit that the judicial system is broken and it's blatantly obvious. If anyone of us was charged with the same crime you wouldn't hear about it but's its Donald Trump and he's running for President so let's mobilize MSM and any rigged courts to slander, slander, and slander again.

These are show trials. How you can't see that statistical bias is beyond me.

I don't even like Donald Trump. I don't even vote in the presidential election. I have ZERO political affiliation but I can see how unfair it is to just pile all these lawsuits on an individual. They literally all waited to drop these on Trump when they knew it would hurt him the most.

Do you see where I'm going with this.

I'm not talking about the legitimacy of a lawsuit I'm talking about the fairness and integrity of our judicial system when you see it weaponized even against someone as hated as Trump it's still wrong.

Like I said if you committed the exact same crimes(allegedly) would it be headline news? No because your not running for POTUS.


The point of the lawsuits was never justice. What you're seeing in Ukraine/Russia was supposed to start in 2017. The wild expansion of federal agencies and opening of the border was supposed to happen in 2017.

Trump's win in 2016 damaged the beaurocracy and prevented the federal agencies from centralizing more wealth and power for 4 years. For that offense, the useless beaurocrcy and federal agencies are attempting to destroy him and anyone with any influence who supports him.

There's nothing the entrenched, unelected federal government won't do to end populist sentiment, or at least terrify people into keeping such sentiment to themselves.
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Feb 4 2024 01:47pm
Quote (SwamiVivekananda @ Feb 4 2024 01:39pm)
Just want you to admit that the judicial system is broken and it's blatantly obvious. If anyone of us was charged with the same crime you wouldn't hear about it but's its Donald Trump and he's running for President so let's mobilize MSM and any rigged courts to slander, slander, and slander again.
These are show trials. How you can't see that statistical bias is beyond me.
I don't even like Donald Trump. I don't even vote in the presidential election. I have ZERO political affiliation but I can see how unfair it is to just pile all these lawsuits on an individual. They literally all waited to drop these on Trump when they knew it would hurt him the most.
Do you see where I'm going with this.
I'm not talking about the legitimacy of a lawsuit I'm talking about the fairness and integrity of our judicial system when you see it weaponized even against someone as hated as Trump it's still wrong.
Like I said if you committed the exact same crimes(allegedly) would it be headline news? No because your not running for POTUS.


The judicial system absolutely has problems. Rich white guys getting treated unfairly over committing hundreds of millions in financial fraud is not in the top 100 of problems with the judicial system.
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Feb 4 2024 01:53pm
Quote (Thor123422 @ Feb 4 2024 12:47pm)
The judicial system absolutely has problems. Rich white guys getting treated unfairly over committing hundreds of millions in financial fraud is not in the top 100 of problems with the judicial system.


Losing millions of people's pension funds due to fraud, misleading retail investors due to false statements. Minimal to no punishment.

Bag of weed. That will be 15 years sir.

The USA is obsessed with protecting its rich oppressors.

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The point of the lawsuits was never justice. What you're seeing in Ukraine/Russia was supposed to start in 2017. The wild expansion of federal agencies and opening of the border was supposed to happen in 2017.

Trump's win in 2016 damaged the beaurocracy and prevented the federal agencies from centralizing more wealth and power for 4 years. For that offense, the useless beaurocrcy and federal agencies are attempting to destroy him and anyone with any influence who supports him.

There's nothing the entrenched, unelected federal government won't do to end populist sentiment, or at least terrify people into keeping such sentiment to themselves.


Quote (Thor123422 @ 4 Feb 2024 13:47)
The judicial system absolutely has problems. Rich white guys getting treated unfairly over committing hundreds of millions in financial fraud is not in the top 100 of problems with the judicial system.


It boggles my mind with so many REAL issues that were all re-living exactly what happened in the 2020 election. Why can't political people move past the figureheads so to speak and just do what's right for the American people for once.

I have family members who support both sides of the aisle and they are quick to "bitch" but never provide solutions to the issues affecting them.

It seems so silly to me that people even identify with either party so adamantly when both our simultaneously dismantling the foundations of our country on some level.

I've heard RFK speak and he seems 100x better then Trump or Biden but because he's "independent" no one give a shit? Why do we still have a 2 party system?

I see our country rotting from "decisions in Washington" but everyone just kinda doesn't give a shit.

Idk just seems odd to me.
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Feb 4 2024 02:04pm
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It boggles my mind with so many REAL issues that were all re-living exactly what happened in the 2020 election. Why can't political people move past the figureheads so to speak and just do what's right for the American people for once.


As per the usual, follow the money. There are approximately 2.2 million federal government employees. State goverments employ another 5.5 million, and local governments employ another 14 million. Give or take.

The government produces nothing. Yet between all levels of government, you're looking at some 22 million plus employees, and $10 Trillion in annual spending (bit over 6 trillion of that from the federal government alone).

The ability of the government to steal from the populace is required to fuel that level of spending. Anyone who threatens to reduce the spending or reduce the size of the government is a massive threat to the entrenched, unelected positions that clog up the government.

The talking points never change. There's always some ist or ism used, there are always accusations of misconduct, fraud, sexual misconduct, whatever else. The point isn't to have a moral nation. The point is to keep the government well-paid, well-fed, and the population providing for them. Populists put that at extreme risk.
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Feb 4 2024 02:15pm
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Losing millions of people's pension funds due to fraud, misleading retail investors due to false statements. Minimal to no punishment.

Bag of weed. That will be 15 years sir.

The USA is obsessed with protecting its rich oppressors.


Accused of a crime? Here's your public defender who's office has 1% if the funding as the prosecutor. Can't afford a lawyer of your own? Here's a plea deal. Only a year in jail!
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Feb 4 2024 02:34pm
Quote (Thor123422 @ 4 Feb 2024 13:15)
Accused of a crime? Here's your public defender who's office has 1% if the funding as the prosecutor. Can't afford a lawyer of your own? Here's a plea deal. Only a year in jail!


This is absolutely true. A+.

The thing to consider: No fraud occurred. A private contract was offered, accepted, and it's terms fulfilled. NY's attempt to outright steal $370 million from Trump won't do anything to fix that. It'll just provide $370 million worth of additional funding for the DA's office, while putting the jobs of 22,000 Trump employees at severe risk.

"Eating the rich" doesn't make the poor rich. It just makes the rich poor, and the already poor homeless. It's fine that you hate Trump and want to see him fail. But this constant desire to race to the bottom is an extremely damaging thing.
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Feb 4 2024 02:43pm
Quote (InsaneBobb @ Feb 4 2024 02:34pm)
This is absolutely true. A+.

The thing to consider: No fraud occurred.


You keep asserting that but I've already disproven literally every one of your defenses.

Get rekt scrub
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Feb 4 2024 02:45pm
Quote (Thor123422 @ 4 Feb 2024 13:43)
You keep asserting that but I've already disproven literally every one of your defenses.

Get rekt scrub


You realize that failing to address the points of those you disagree with only serves to make you look like nothing more than a whiny troll, right?

Bottom line: You actively support the excess funding to the tune of $370 Million for the NY DA's office, which will promptly be used to imprison poor black people for non-violent crimes.

Get rekt, dumbass.
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