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I'm really bummed about restaurants and I think government has really let them down. There hasn't been consistent messaging which means it's insanely difficult to plan. Many restaurants adapted quickly and came up with carry-out menus. Others thought they could shut down temporarily only to have the shut down last much longer than anticipated. Local governments really need to come up with plans that can help these businesses survive such as shutting down streets to traffic so that outdoor dining can exist. However, you also have to consider consumer demand because if that goes down enough, there's literally nothing you can do short of bailing out restaurants.

Going out to eat is typically less about the food and more about the combination of food and experience. It's very social and I'm not convinced that ghost kitchens and delivery are going to ever replace that even though ghost kitchens are becoming a larger share of the market.
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Aug 7 2020 12:56pm
Quote (thundercock @ Aug 7 2020 11:55am)
I'm really bummed about restaurants and I think government has really let them down. There hasn't been consistent messaging which means it's insanely difficult to plan. Many restaurants adapted quickly and came up with carry-out menus. Others thought they could shut down temporarily only to have the shut down last much longer than anticipated. Local governments really need to come up with plans that can help these businesses survive such as shutting down streets to traffic so that outdoor dining can exist. However, you also have to consider consumer demand because if that goes down enough, there's literally nothing you can do short of bailing out restaurants.

Going out to eat is typically less about the food and more about the combination of food and experience. It's very social and I'm not convinced that ghost kitchens and delivery are going to ever replace that even though ghost kitchens are becoming a larger share of the market.


couldn't agree more.
Good thing TB and Giselle got money though because they needed it to sell t shirts.
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Aug 7 2020 12:58pm
Pretty much all of my favorite places in LA have outdoor seating now, so I’ve been spending lots of money helping them survive. I also enjoy doing carryouts from local bars of ginormous cocktails. Being able to take drinks home in my car from the bar is one of the coolest changes. Just a plastic lid and some tape and suddenly you’re immune to open container laws.

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Aug 7 2020 12:59pm
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/elections/one-five-mail-ballots-rejected-botched-nyc-primary-n1236143?cid=sm_npd_nn_tw_ma

Numbers are finally in from NYC's presidential primary back in June 23. It didn't take place until 2 months after Bernie conceded, and the results weren't in until today 2 months after taht.
The mail-in voting experiment turned out to be a miserable failure, with 84,000 ballots rejected, a full 21% of all mail-in votes

So to be clear: It took 2 months after the election for the absentee votes to be counted during the pandemic. And it resulted in 21% of mail-in voters being disenfranchised.


If this happened during the presidential election, nobody would accept the results.

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Quote (thundercock @ Aug 7 2020 01:55pm)
I'm really bummed about restaurants and I think government has really let them down. There hasn't been consistent messaging which means it's insanely difficult to plan. Many restaurants adapted quickly and came up with carry-out menus. Others thought they could shut down temporarily only to have the shut down last much longer than anticipated. Local governments really need to come up with plans that can help these businesses survive such as shutting down streets to traffic so that outdoor dining can exist. However, you also have to consider consumer demand because if that goes down enough, there's literally nothing you can do short of bailing out restaurants.

Going out to eat is typically less about the food and more about the combination of food and experience. It's very social and I'm not convinced that ghost kitchens and delivery are going to ever replace that even though ghost kitchens are becoming a larger share of the market.


BUT BUT BUT BUT corporations with 30-40% constant profit margins needed billions because they've been dumping cash back to wall street via dividends and buying back stock so the board is happy, so restaurants with a 10% profit margin just have to deal with it.

ive never hated corporate america more than in covid. im going to start putting plastic pieces in my conveyors that burn out a year or two after the warranty runs out.
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Quote (Goomshill @ Aug 7 2020 11:59am)
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/elections/one-five-mail-ballots-rejected-botched-nyc-primary-n1236143?cid=sm_npd_nn_tw_ma

Numbers are finally in from NYC's presidential primary back in June 23. It didn't take place until 2 months after Bernie conceded, and the results weren't in until today 2 months after taht.
The mail-in voting experiment turned out to be a miserable failure, with 84,000 ballots rejected, a full 21% of all mail-in votes

So to be clear: It took 2 months after the election for the absentee votes to be counted during the pandemic. And it resulted in 21% of mail-in voters being disenfranchised.


If this happened during the presidential election, nobody would accept the results.



In other words, the state prevented voter fraud by disqualifying incorrectly filled ballots and you’re mad about it. Because in reality you love voter fraud when it benefits your side.
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Aug 7 2020 01:04pm
Quote (Goomshill @ Aug 7 2020 11:59am)
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/elections/one-five-mail-ballots-rejected-botched-nyc-primary-n1236143?cid=sm_npd_nn_tw_ma

Numbers are finally in from NYC's presidential primary back in June 23. It didn't take place until 2 months after Bernie conceded, and the results weren't in until today 2 months after taht.
The mail-in voting experiment turned out to be a miserable failure, with 84,000 ballots rejected, a full 21% of all mail-in votes

So to be clear: It took 2 months after the election for the absentee votes to be counted during the pandemic. And it resulted in 21% of mail-in voters being disenfranchised.


If this happened during the presidential election, nobody would accept the results.


yea that's miserable.. and your right would never be accepted
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Aug 7 2020 01:05pm
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Man it is just a beautiful thing that the far right is bringing the Marxist talking points while calling center-right neoliberals like Biden - who hate the left - “Marxists.” It’s a bit dizzying, but at least they agree with all of the analyses of Capital.


"They agree with all of the analyses of Capital" is a real stretch, lol.


On a more general note: yes, the republican base is not as far right on economic and fiscal issues as the party establishment. This is particularly true for the trump base.
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Quote (Black XistenZ @ Aug 7 2020 12:05pm)
"They agree with all of the analyses of Capital" is a real stretch, lol.


On a more general note: yes, the republican base is not as far right on economic and fiscal issues as the party establishment. This is particularly true for the trump base.


correct or not.. its why my feeling is the trump base is all about race..
trump/bernie when talking are not that far apart.. what happens in reality yes(because trump can't tell the truth or admit responsibility)
But R base just is really focused on WHERE the money goes.. if its to white middle america its fine.. IE EO on prescription drugs (socialist) was well received..
An opposite example something like food stamps perceived to be a black person issue=lazy
Let them "find something else" Ivanka BS, but it echo's the trump base perception.
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Aug 7 2020 01:13pm
Quote (Black XistenZ @ Aug 7 2020 02:05pm)
"They agree with all of the analyses of Capital" is a real stretch, lol.


On a more general note: yes, the republican base is not as far right on economic and fiscal issues as the party establishment. This is particularly true for the trump base.


political axes change, wanting a protectionist economy where america is first is the new furthest right u can be in economy. and fiscal conservative governance no longer belongs to either party and has fallen off the axis altogether.
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