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Aug 7 2020 11:42am
Quote (Black XistenZ @ Aug 7 2020 10:26am)
Bullshit. Plenty of perfectly healthy small businesses have been destroyed through no fault of their own by covid, thrusting the families whose livelihood was based on them from the middle class down to the other plebs depending on government handouts. These things wouldnt have happened without covid. Most businesses going down due to covid just had the bad luck of being in the wrong, non-corona-proof industry.

When it comes to the billionaires, note that by far not all of them benefitted from this crisis either. It is mostly the Silicon Valley companies and the business models of the future (Amazon, Tesla) who benefit from this crisis. I'm with Bernie when he says that it's time the billionaires finally pay their fair share while the rest of the country hurts like crazy, but his doesnt mean that the corona crisis is just a straightforward extension of pre-existing trends.


yea and the FED relief was sold to public as helping these companies.. went straight to giant Corps and we are now building a shit ton of fighter jets.
good plan.
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Aug 7 2020 11:45am
Quote (theCrossbones @ Aug 7 2020 01:42pm)
yea and the FED relief was sold to public as helping these companies.. went straight to giant Corps and we are now building a shit ton of fighter jets.
good plan.


Love the LA Lakers getting small business loans.
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Aug 7 2020 11:49am
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Love the LA Lakers getting small business loans.


even our friend Tom Brady and his broke ass wife got some snaps.
so fucking stupid
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Aug 7 2020 11:50am
Man it is just a beautiful thing that the far right is bringing the Marxist talking points while calling center-right neoliberals like Biden - who hate the left - “Marxists.” It’s a bit dizzying, but at least they agree with all of the analyses of Capital.
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Aug 7 2020 11:51am
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Man it is just a beautiful thing that the far right is bringing the Marxist talking points while calling center-right neoliberals like Biden - who hate the left - “Marxists.” It’s a bit dizzying, but at least they agree with all of the analyses of Capital.


trump is such a bad R he has turned his base into communists'
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Aug 7 2020 11:54am
Quote (thesnipa @ 7 Aug 2020 19:38)
ahhh yes, because small businesses havent been getting gobbled up by corporations or decades.

small restaurants replaced by chains, small shops replaced by walmarts replaced by amazon, etc.

rising rent prices and declining purchasing power of the american lower-middle class has been killing businesses forever, and the dot com boom made it worse, and covid put it down with no mercy to stop it's suffering.


Thor claimed that covid hasnt started anything new, although it is clearly killing these businesses in a totally new way. These restaurants, bars, clubs, gyms, book stores, event agencies etc. - they arent going out of business at the moment because competiion from chains or amazon, or from declining purchasing power among their customers, they're going down because they are forced to close for non-economic (public health) reasons.
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Aug 7 2020 12:00pm
Quote (Black XistenZ @ Aug 7 2020 01:54pm)
Thor claimed that covid hasnt started anything new, although it is clearly killing these businesses in a totally new way. These restaurants, bars, clubs, gyms, book stores, event agencies etc. - they arent going out of business at the moment because competiion from chains or amazon, or from declining purchasing power among their customers, they're going down because they are forced to close for non-economic (public health) reasons.


They are being closed because leadership mismanaged this disease. Them closing is a consequence of lack of a national leader taking this thing on.

He's signing executive orders about tiktok like a loser.

The GOP usually leave the economy in the shitter but this one has to be a record even for them.

Of course they will try to blame the weakest house in Congress lol.

Same dudes that reelected Bush to a second term are gonna show up and reelect Trump.

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Aug 7 2020 12:01pm
Quote (Black XistenZ @ Aug 7 2020 12:26pm)
Bullshit. Plenty of perfectly healthy small businesses have been destroyed through no fault of their own by covid, thrusting the families whose livelihood was based on them from the middle class down to the other plebs depending on government handouts. These things wouldnt have happened without covid. Most businesses going down due to covid just had the bad luck of being in the wrong, non-corona-proof industry.

When it comes to the billionaires, note that by far not all of them benefitted from this crisis either. It is mostly the Silicon Valley companies and the business models of the future (Amazon, Tesla) who benefit from this crisis. I'm with Bernie when he says that it's time the billionaires finally pay their fair share while the rest of the country hurts like crazy, but his doesnt mean that the corona crisis is just a straightforward extension of pre-existing trends.


Blah blah blah totally missed the point.

That shit has been happening for decades, Covid made it go faster.
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Aug 7 2020 12:01pm
Quote (Thor123422 @ Aug 7 2020 02:01pm)
Blah blah blah totally missed the point.

That shit has been happening for decades, Covid made it go faster.


Everything getting shittier and mass produced.
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Aug 7 2020 12:02pm
Quote (thesnipa @ Aug 7 2020 01:38pm)
ahhh yes, because small businesses havent been getting gobbled up by corporations or decades.

small restaurants replaced by chains, small shops replaced by walmarts replaced by amazon, etc.

rising rent prices and declining purchasing power of the american lower-middle class has been killing businesses forever, and the dot com boom made it worse, and covid put it down with no mercy to stop it's suffering.


Obviously the trend was there but that's not an excuse for what happened these last few months. You put a sick old dog out of misery, not people who are turning a profit running a small venture because in 20 years they wont be profitable because of the Walmart's. Talk to most small business owners that got tko'd by Covid and they won't have this almost like they've been done a favor by being 'put down not to suffer' attitude.

I was at this neighborhood little Italian place few weeks back. Really nice cozy place. I was talking to a regular who was telling me they used to have live music every Wednesday night and the place was packed. I can't speak to how much money the owner was making but it's safe to safe he was turning a profit. Now? There were 2 customers at that place, i won't be surprised if i see a for sale/leasing sign in another couple of months.

Thing is it's not even only restaurants. It's pretty much every place that has a brick and mortar location which tend to be your local little guys. You can only let in X people, you have to have X sanitation stations, you have to monitor and create social distancing rules and on and on.
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