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#5861
Nov 17 2023 03:27am
Quote (WhiteSouned @ 17 Nov 2023 17:24)
We did had an ever-ending discussion in Israel about that status quo. After 7/10 this discussion came to an end. We all agree that it is impossible to live like that. The missiles, the raiders, all need to disappear.
Border with Lebanon is the same joke as the border with Gaza. In some sense even worst. My friend’s balcony is about 100 m from a Lebanese house.. and a Hizbullah post.


It makes eminently good sense to just chase these guys out of Gaza.
Seriously , I don't understand why some people still think of a two state solution.
The Palestine / Hamas problem and situation is far more than just a nationalistic / cultural group of inhabitants that just want self determination. It is way more complex, and fueled with religious fervor and zeal, it is a recipe for disaster.

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Nov 17 2023 03:40am
Quote (Many_Names @ 17 Nov 2023 17:07)
So now targeting building is genocide?
either take responsibility or keep rebuilding.

This is the Middle East language, that you simply can't comprehend.
Why didn't Hezbollah hit Israel since 2006? but it does now?
because we hit them so hard, they are still rebuilding areas in Beirut.
now they are allowing themselve to push because we are busy in the south... like sharks that smell blood.

If Sweden was my neighbor, I wouldn't have problems trust me.


I will tell you exactly what Hamas / Palestinians / Arab Muslim world wants and want to control.
The most important part is being boxed in Maroon.

Here .

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#5863
Nov 17 2023 05:30am
Quote (Goomshill @ Nov 17 2023 09:09am)
Weird how it was an acceptable status quo up until a non-rocket attack happened and actually killed massive amounts of people. The obvious conclusion is that the rockets aren't the threat, an army of hamas raiders crossing the border is.
What's on the border with Lebanon? Is it a series of fortifications, minefields, gun emplacements, barbed wire, electrified fences, walls, guard posts and artillery? Because that's what has defined the korean DMZ.

Hamas was able to kill 1200 people because all they needed was their normal small arms and civilian vehicles plus some tin snips to cut an undefended fence. They just crossed into Israel on Israeli highways and used them to retreat again. There were no deadly obstacles, no minefields to cross, no anti-air guns to shoot down paragliders, no electric fences to defuse, no guards to spot them and order artillery barrages on their massed forces. Israel's line of defense against a ground invasion is less than most American suburbs and gated communities.


They had remotely operated machine gun turrets. I don't know any gated communities with those. But I'd like to live there if it exists.
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Nov 17 2023 06:27am
How many palestinians have been killed in the "hostages liberation operation" ? Any update on the numbers ?
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Nov 17 2023 06:39am
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How many palestinians have been killed in the "hostages liberation operation" ? Any update on the numbers ?



It's near 11,500 total dead Palestinians and 1200 Israel.

Historically Israel kills 15x for each of their own killed, So at least 6000 dead Palestinians walking right now awaiting body bags or mass grave. Probably gonna be more than 15x rate this time

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Nov 17 2023 06:43am
Quote (RedFromWinter @ 17 Nov 2023 13:39)
It's near 11,500 total dead Palestinians and 1200 Israel.

Historically Israel kills 15x for each of their own killed, So at least 6000 dead Palestinians walking right now awaiting body bags or mass grave. Probably gonna be more than 15x rate this time


So it increaseed again since last time. Ok
Very clever estimation i am totally agree with your "15x" ratio i have to say it. We can even add the "killed children ratio" /e which is far superior considering it's blind bombings & that half of Palstinians are children.

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Nov 17 2023 07:30am
Quote (Meanwhile @ Nov 17 2023 12:27pm)
How many palestinians have been killed in the "hostages liberation operation" ? Any update on the numbers ?


How many hostages has Hamas released? Like 10? Has Hamas surrendered?

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Nov 17 2023 08:16am
Quote (Meanwhile @ 17 Nov 2023 14:27)
How many palestinians have been killed in the "hostages liberation operation" ? Any update on the numbers ?


The numbers doesnt matter
I
Quote (RedFromWinter @ 17 Nov 2023 14:39)
It's near 11,500 total dead Palestinians and 1200 Israel.

Historically Israel kills 15x for each of their own killed, So at least 6000 dead Palestinians walking right now awaiting body bags or mass grave. Probably gonna be more than 15x rate this time


We do not target civilians
We will stop when Hamas ceased to exist

This post was edited by Many_Names on Nov 17 2023 08:17am
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Nov 17 2023 08:28am
Quote (Hamsterbaby @ 17 Nov 2023 11:40)
I will tell you exactly what Hamas / Palestinians / Arab Muslim world wants and want to control.
The most important part is being boxed in Maroon.

Here .

https://i.imgur.com/4JTsFTfl.jpg

Jerusalem has 0 importance in Islam.
This mosque was built 60 years after Muhamads death
And 1100 years after the jewish temple.

Jerusalem doesnt even mentioned in the Quran.
Its simply ignorance.

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Nov 17 2023 08:53am
Quote (Many_Names @ Nov 17 2023 03:28pm)
Jerusalem has 0 importance in Islam.
This mosque was built 60 years after Muhamads death
And 1100 years after the jewish temple.

Jerusalem doesnt even mentioned in the Quran.
Its simply ignorance.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VHpMhAzj-Tk


they desperately need reasons to justify their hatred, thats all ^_^

"we want al aqsa back" sounds better than "all jews must vanish from the middle east"
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