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Jul 26 2016 08:26pm
Quote (cambovenzi @ Jul 26 2016 09:12pm)
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'recognize blowback? That means you are blaming Americans, claiming we invited the attack, and you should apologize'


But Osama Bin Laden did not attack the United States because of Iraq, nor was he a friend of Saddam Hussein.

Ron Paul needs to stay out of policy debates he knows knowing about.
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Jul 26 2016 08:27pm
Quote (cambovenzi @ 27 Jul 2016 02:12)
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'recognize blowback? That means you are blaming Americans, claiming we invited the attack, and you should apologize'


have to say that it is probably the most reasonable i have heard from anyone associated with the republican party in many years, yes there was an overstatement of the non-interventionist ideas within the republican party and the ludicrous claim that reagan was a peaceful president but otherwise it hit the nail on the head - thx for posting

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But Osama Bin Laden did not attack the United States because of Iraq, nor was he a friend of Saddam Hussein.
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but the usa 'made' osama bin laden and where did ron paul claim that osama bin laden was a friend of saddam hussein?

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have to say that it is probably the most reasonable i have heard from anyone associated with the republican party in many years, yes there was an overstatement of the non-interventionist ideas within the republican party and the ludicrous claim that reagan was a peaceful president but otherwise it hit the nail on the head - thx for posting


Agreed, Paul was the sane one there.
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Jul 26 2016 09:11pm
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have to say that it is probably the most reasonable i have heard from anyone associated with the republican party in many years, yes there was an overstatement of the non-interventionist ideas within the republican party and the ludicrous claim that reagan was a peaceful president but otherwise it hit the nail on the head - thx for posting

np. thanks for the compliment.

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But Osama Bin Laden did not attack the United States because of Iraq, nor was he a friend of Saddam Hussein.

Ron Paul needs to stay out of policy debates he knows knowing about.


Osama and al qaeda were explicit in their reasons and Ron Paul paraphrased them pretty accurately in what limited time he had.
Military Presence in the middle east and sanctions on Iraq were two of them.

Osama on iraq: "the greatest mass slaughter of children mankind has ever known"

Al Qaeda:
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"for over seven years the United States has been occupying the lands of Islam in the holiest of places, the Arabian Peninsula, plundering its riches, dictating to its rulers, humiliating its people, terrorizing its neighbors, and turning its bases in the Peninsula into a spearhead through which to fight the neighboring Muslim peoples."

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"despite the great devastation inflicted on the Iraqi people by the crusader-Zionist alliance, and despite the huge number of those killed, which has exceeded 1 million... despite all this, the Americans are once against trying to repeat the horrific massacres, as though they are not content with the protracted blockade imposed after the ferocious war or the fragmentation and devastation....On that basis, and in compliance with Allah's order, we issue the following fatwa to all Muslims: The ruling to kill the Americans and their allies—civilians and military—is an individual duty for every Muslim..."


Its very clear Ron Paul knew what he was talking about. Far more so than anyone else on that stage.

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Jul 26 2016 10:06pm
Quote (cambovenzi @ Jul 26 2016 10:11pm)

Osama and al qaeda were explicit in their reasons and Ron Paul paraphrased them pretty accurately in what limited time he had.
Military Presence in the middle east and sanctions on Iraq were two of them.

Osama on iraq: "the greatest mass slaughter of children mankind has ever known"

Al Qaeda:


Its very clear Ron Paul knew what he was talking about. Far more so than anyone else on that stage.


I'm not sure I'm following, the sanctions on Iraq followed the first Gulf War, which began when Saddam seized Kuwait and positioned his army on the border of Saudi Arabia. Sanctions from the UN Security Council followed, and remained largely in place (following genocide in Kurdistan) until the fall of Saddam's regime.

Would Ron Paul, president in 1990, have allowed Saddam Hussein to gain control of a majority of the world's oil reserves?
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Jul 27 2016 04:21am
trump continues to climb in the polls
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trump continues to climb in the polls


post rnc boost and pre dnc boost
but yes (as expected) trump is gaining in support from the uneducated white masses
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Jul 27 2016 04:44am
He's at less than 2/1 at the sports books now too.
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Jul 27 2016 07:20am


Trump getting more and more popular as the DNC goes on.

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post rnc boost and pre dnc boost
but yes (as expected) trump is gaining in support from the uneducated white masses


He's getting support from all kinds of demographics. He is a uniter. Your post basically implies that minorities can't make their own decisions but should instead by default support the Democratic party. This clearly isn't the case. See below for just one example



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Quote (brmv @ Jul 27 2016 06:38am)
post rnc boost and pre dnc boost
but yes (as expected) trump is gaining in support from the uneducated white masses


Shutup, you racist fuck.
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