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Oct 5 2023 01:42pm
Quote (Goomshill @ Oct 5 2023 04:28pm)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XG5BcU1ZGiA

Wow I imagined someone had made something like this already but I'm still surprised by how many examples there were

What a corrupt clown show. This was the makeup of the government and media during the Trump administration too, don't know why anyone thinks he has a chance now whether he gets the votes or not
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Oct 5 2023 01:46pm
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Oct 5 2023 01:47pm
Quote (thesnipa @ Oct 5 2023 02:38pm)
10 years ago i'd say they'd be just fine, today they'd have their names and employers online inside of 15 mins after it goes viral. social media is largely a plague, but one thing it has done is given over power to people to hold people accountable in ways that were previously not available.

on that same topic pornography used to be a big deal, because it was so well regulated (even if everyone knew that one kid who's dad was way too neglectful with his collection). now a days why even bother to try and uphold standards of decency in media that's publicly offered? when any teenager can view more porn in 30 seconds than our generation could view in a lifetime under previous standards.

history means nothing in the internet age, expression is the last freedom we'll retain moving forward. the freedom to express yourself out of civilized society included.


And what good does that do if they're a hated minority today?
Society doesn't rise up to defend people they are already biased against, if anything it will join in the dogpile. Which is certainly what happened in Hugo

which groups are being persecuted changes, but the mob hatred is just the same in the internet age as it was 100 and 200 years ago. The same as it is in India and Pakistan, look at how mobs and social media intersect there, and the heavy handed censorship to try to get it under control. But I can tell you that its a pretty good sign a group like mexicans aren't the target of popular hatred if a dozen illegal immigrants can kidnap and gang rape an 11 year old girl and other young girls in bemidji and society's response is a collective shrug instead of arming themselves and lynching every taco eater in town



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Oct 5 2023 01:51pm
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And what good does that do if they're a hated minority today?
Society doesn't rise up to defend people they are already biased against, if anything it will join in the dogpile. Which is certainly what happened in Hugo

which groups are being persecuted changes, but the mob hatred is just the same in the internet age as it was 100 and 200 years ago. The same as it is in India and Pakistan, look at how mobs and social media intersect there, and the heavy handed censorship to try to get it under control. But I can tell you that its a pretty good sign a group like mexicans aren't the target of popular hatred if a dozen illegal immigrants can kidnap and gang rape an 11 year old girl and other young girls in bemidji and society's response is a collective shrug instead of arming themselves and lynching every taco eater in town


when the mob becomes a violent mob the violent people get prosecuted. if it happens enough times DAs will learn to appease mobs at least enough that their front lawn doesnt become Occupy Wallstreet.
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Oct 5 2023 02:09pm
Quote (thesnipa @ Oct 5 2023 02:51pm)
when the mob becomes a violent mob the violent people get prosecuted. if it happens enough times DAs will learn to appease mobs at least enough that their front lawn doesnt become Occupy Wallstreet.


Or a mob can become a violent mob and the DA shares their views and doesn't prosecute anyone and entire cities get torched and those responsible go unchecked.
Take a case example like the trucker who tried to deliver gas to minneapolis during the height of the insurrection. 1000 people illegally spilled onto the freeway and nearly got run over when he went over a hill and saw them, slammed on his breaks and saved hundreds of lives. Only to be pulled from his vehicle, shot at, beaten, mugged and his property stolen and destroyed- all on video including folks who proudly took trophies and showed off what they stole from him. The trucker got prosecuted, not the people who attacked him.

The safeguard you've been describing is actually the danger itself- societal bias. Leaving it to the people results in mob action, and infecting the justice system with it results in kangaroo courts.
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Oct 5 2023 02:12pm
Quote (Goomshill @ 5 Oct 2023 15:15)
Harassing and threatening private citizens at their homes and calling for violence against them. I mean, his son did go on to murder 5 folks





Weird how the part where you listed what the politician actually says, versus what random shitters of no importance are saying, comes up with such a drastic difference in tone and meaning.
Trump didn't go out to Mike Pence's home and tell an angry mob to torch the neighborhood.


your foolish revisionist history won't hold up

we have been into this many times

the fact that there are hundreds of them in jail already is plain and simple clear as day obvious enough to know they dun goofed
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Oct 5 2023 02:29pm
Quote (Goomshill @ Oct 5 2023 01:09pm)
Or a mob can become a violent mob and the DA shares their views and doesn't prosecute anyone and entire cities get torched and those responsible go unchecked.
Take a case example like the trucker who tried to deliver gas to minneapolis during the height of the insurrection. 1000 people illegally spilled onto the freeway and nearly got run over when he went over a hill and saw them, slammed on his breaks and saved hundreds of lives. Only to be pulled from his vehicle, shot at, beaten, mugged and his property stolen and destroyed- all on video including folks who proudly took trophies and showed off what they stole from him. The trucker got prosecuted, not the people who attacked him.

The safeguard you've been describing is actually the danger itself- societal bias. Leaving it to the people results in mob action, and infecting the justice system with it results in kangaroo courts.




yeah...some poor innocent trucker driving into peaceful protestors at speed. do you ever get sick of your hypocrisy??
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Oct 5 2023 02:30pm
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Or a mob can become a violent mob and the DA shares their views and doesn't prosecute anyone and entire cities get torched and those responsible go unchecked.
Take a case example like the trucker who tried to deliver gas to minneapolis during the height of the insurrection. 1000 people illegally spilled onto the freeway and nearly got run over when he went over a hill and saw them, slammed on his breaks and saved hundreds of lives. Only to be pulled from his vehicle, shot at, beaten, mugged and his property stolen and destroyed- all on video including folks who proudly took trophies and showed off what they stole from him. The trucker got prosecuted, not the people who attacked him.

The safeguard you've been describing is actually the danger itself- societal bias. Leaving it to the people results in mob action, and infecting the justice system with it results in kangaroo courts.


so we're living in a fantasy land where violent mobs are left unchecked in perpetuity for, checks notes, bias?

we've already seen the national guard called in to several cities, and it's been a while since we had our last real riot. unless we count flash mobs of petty thievery from retail stores, and i dont.
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Oct 5 2023 02:35pm
Quote (thesnipa @ Oct 5 2023 01:30pm)
so we're living in a fantasy land where violent mobs are left unchecked in perpetuity for, checks notes, bias?

we've already seen the national guard called in to several cities, and it's been a while since we had our last real riot. unless we count flash mobs of petty thievery from retail stores, and i dont.


He's talking about the black pogroms of 2020 where no one was held accountable.
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Quote (Crunkt @ Oct 5 2023 11:12pm)
your foolish revisionist history won't hold up

we have been into this many times

the fact that there are hundreds of them in jail already is plain and simple clear as day obvious enough to know they dun goofed


putting innocent people in jail only shows you are a member of a left-wing fascist cult
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