thats what i am saying though, the baltics are safe and whatever remains of ukraine as well

i keep talking about a peace deal, because the ensures there is as much of ukraine left as possible to join the western block

all western national leaders, the EU and NATO leaders say the same thing and its why west never bothered to stop this war

they want ukraine as a part of the west and if every single young man in ukraine needs to be sacrificed so be it

I never said that Russia had no right to refuse to sell in 2021. All I'm saying is that it's highly fishy that they changed their stance in 2021 for no apparent reason after having been cooperative for literally decades. Also note that Germany was willing to pay the usual, market-rate premium for the supplies they wanted to buy on the spot market. Russia still refused.


That's not what we did though. Germany decided to rather risk going into the 2021/22 winter with low filling levels, of course not anticipating what would go down over the following 18 months...

The long term contracts were only signed after the Russian invasion of Ukraine, at a time when Russia was already throttling gas supplies through the established pipelines and it was abundantly clear that this source would dry up very soon. Germany was simply in a much weaker bargaining position when they signed the contracts with Qatar in 2022 than when they rejected Russian suggestions of similar contracts in 2019-2021.


Or if you were already planning to gradually phase out gas and oil over the coming years, so that you wanted to retain flexibility and not get stuck on decades-long contracts with take of pay clauses.






The Baltics are not safe if Russia outright wins the war in Ukraine and the US is led by a president who isn't committed to NATO.
Whatever remains of Ukraine will only be safe if Russia signs the peace deal and actually sticks by it.
Also note that Russia is currently working really hard on chipping away at "whatever remains of Ukraine".
If the Ukrainians themselves were no longer willing to fight and wanted to try their luck with negotiations, there would be nothing the West could do to force them to continue fighting.

This post was edited by Black XistenZ on Feb 7 2024 10:46am

Time for another update. Ukrainian defense lines in Avdiivka crumble with wounded Ukrainian soldiers being abandoned by their superiors.

Avdiivka: Fortress city described as one of the strongest fortified regions in Ukraine's defense line.

It only took Russians 10 years to capture it, quite the achievement.

The way the city fell almost immediately after the bunker complex was taken in the south, with the reports of being outflanked by tunnels, makes me think the UA brass was assuming that even as the city fell it would take longer and they'd have more time to retreat
because all the footage on sites right now shows ukrainians running on foot under fire, or being captured. And they abandoned the coke plant instead of trying to hold out there
the city isn't completely encircled or taken yet, but the paths of retreat are under intense fire and Russia will have full control in ~2 days, so it sure looks like a rout

It actually is an achievement.

Nothing goes unnoticed, every movement is picked up by drones that continuously monitor the battlefield and surrounding area and defending soldiers simply send coordinates back to artillery units and FPV drone operators.

It's a hell of a job to take these kind of fortifications, Ukraine found out the hard way during last summer's much hyped NATO trained / equipped counteroffensive.

Guess the exact same turd who is constantly bumping this topic has a seat here

Luckily for Ukraine they don't lose soldiers, only civilians

Also they're lucky that the delusional West keeps providing them with more money and equipment

Equipment that the Russian then destroy but hey we don't count those losses just like we don't count Ukrainian soldiers

Sad

1210 kills while retreating must have been the FFL