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Oct 21 2020 11:11am
Quote (IceMage @ Oct 21 2020 12:14pm)
If it's the same "pay to play" scheme as Hillary than it's all smoke and no fire.

You're right though, I care about American democracy more than the truth of this story.


Media organizations are actively covering for the Biden campaign after years of working with Obama holdovers to uncritically publish allegations that Trump was fucking Russian hookers and was a literal Russian plant.

Meanwhile social media giants are increasingly pressured by Democratic activists to censor "fake news", the definition of which is to be decided by left-run "fact-check" outlets that have been thoroughly discredited.

What democracy are you trying to save and from whom? The Orange man everyone with any political, corporate, or social power already hates?
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Oct 21 2020 11:18am
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How people respond to allegations I think is pretty important. A person accused of such heinous shit that's not guilty is going to feel really angry and is probably going to foam at his mouth, I know that's what I would do.

A guilty person might try this approach but if they are guilty and they know there's some evidence that could expose them as lying they'll just sit quietly in the corner.

I don't know if this laptop pedo shit is real, but if it's not why isn't Hunter or Biden threatening to go after all of these media outlets with lawsuits? I mean I feel like this would be the proper response from someone that's not guilty. Why at least not issue public statements where they categorically deny all of this?


and yet trump has come up against some heinous allegations and just says "no thats not true" or "they're just jealous and making things up". walking into teenage dressing rooms, sexual assault, fraud, marital rape, etc.

If joe answered this currently baseless af allegation like this you'd call it not enough, yet when trump did the same thing in 2016 it was just fine because u want pro life SCOTUS judges.

i accept your reasoning for voting for an imperfect person, its just odd you think others need to meet a level you dont even give a fuck about when its ur guy. let alone expecting this to be anything but muddy af water in 2 weeks when its only in tabloids now.....

stop expecting other people to need a good guy they believe in, people wanting anyone but trump is no different than you wanting someone who's pro life and pro christain even if he's a flawed sinner and terrible person. if it can be about the agenda to you it can be about the agenda to others.

inb4 yeah but its pedo stuff. and trump walking in on teenagers dressing then bragging about it isnt? lol, ok. epstein flights and party connections waved away with "i hardly knew the guy" etc etc etc.

just develop a standard u use for both sides, even if it is embarrassingly low morally.

This post was edited by thesnipa on Oct 21 2020 11:19am
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Oct 21 2020 11:23am
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funny tho that u realize the timing is suspect but not the source.

trump literally could have had the FBI/DOJ announce this if it was legit, instead its Rudy via shit tier sources.


No he actually can't.
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Oct 21 2020 11:24am
Quote (ofthevoid @ Oct 21 2020 01:11pm)
How people respond to allegations I think is pretty important. A person accused of such heinous shit that's not guilty is going to feel really angry and is probably going to foam at his mouth, I know that's what I would do. Like look at someone like Kavanaugh, you could see the anger in his eyes. Maybe it was a staged response but that wounded look in the face of damaging lies comes across both in your voice and through the screen.

A guilty person might try this approach but if they are guilty and they know there's some evidence that could expose them as lying they'll just sit quietly in the corner.

I don't know if this laptop pedo shit is real, but if it's not why isn't Hunter or Biden threatening to go after all of these media outlets with lawsuits? I mean I feel like this would be the proper response from someone that's not guilty. Why at least not issue public statements where they categorically deny all of this?


There's two weeks left until election day. Obviously some of the material is true, but there's no good reason politically to draw more attention to the story. Cultists understand this when Trump calls things fake news... now they're playing dumb.

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Media organizations are actively covering for the Biden campaign after years of working with Obama holdovers to uncritically publish allegations that Trump was fucking Russian hookers and was a literal Russian plant.

Meanwhile social media giants are increasingly pressured by Democratic activists to censor "fake news", the definition of which is to be decided by left-run "fact-check" outlets that have been thoroughly discredited.

What democracy are you trying to save and from whom? The Orange man everyone with any political, corporate, or social power already hates?


I don't agree with most of your characterizations. There's no point in explaining Trump's unique threat to democracy to a supporter of his. If you don't understand it at this point, you never will.
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Oct 21 2020 11:25am
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and yet trump has come up against some heinous allegations and just says "no thats not true" or "they're just jealous and making things up". walking into teenage dressing rooms, sexual assault, fraud, marital rape, etc.

If joe answered this currently baseless af allegation like this you'd call it not enough, yet when trump did the same thing in 2016 it was just fine because u want pro life SCOTUS judges.

i accept your reasoning for voting for an imperfect person, its just odd you think others need to meet a level you dont even give a fuck about when its ur guy. let alone expecting this to be anything but muddy af water in 2 weeks when its only in tabloids now.....

stop expecting other people to need a good guy they believe in, people wanting anyone but trump is no different than you wanting someone who's pro life and pro christain even if he's a flawed sinner and terrible person. if it can be about the agenda to you it can be about the agenda to others.

inb4 yeah but its pedo stuff. and trump walking in on teenagers dressing then bragging about it isnt? lol, ok. epstein flights and party connections waved away with "i hardly knew the guy" etc etc etc.

just develop a standard u use for both sides, even if it is embarrassingly low morally.



Trump faced 37 hundred accusations a day for the last 4 years. At some it has to be pretty tiring to say no I'm not a racist, sexist, etc.

My reasoning for voting ideologically has it's limits. I can overlook whoremongering or being rude or whatever but child porn? Like if Trump sacrificed a kid to Baal on live TV obviously I'm not going to overlook that for end justifying the means. To me child porn is a pretty heinous thing and i would be denying it at the top of my lungs and going after the people who spread this if a lie.

Idk i thought most people have rankings of bad but it seems to me you''re listing being a pedo in the same category as one of these lesser bads.

This post was edited by ofthevoid on Oct 21 2020 11:27am
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Oct 21 2020 11:31am
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No he actually can't.


Lol. He can certainly try. The only question is whether people at DOJ/FBI will go along with the corruption.

https://twitter.com/MarshallCohen/status/1318614294016253953

Again, if this FBI investigation into Hunter Biden is real, we'll know about it before the election. Barr will tell us.

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Oct 21 2020 11:33am
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Trump faced 37 hundred accusations a day for the last 4 years. At some it has to be pretty tiring to say no I'm not a racist, sexist, etc.

My reasoning for voting ideologically has it's limits. I can overlook whoremongering or being rude or whatever but child porn? Like if Trump sacrificed a kid to Baal on live TV obviously I'm not going to overlook that for end justifying the means. To me child porn is a pretty heinous thing and i would be denying it at the top of my lungs and going after the people who spread this if a lie.

Idk i thought most people have rankings of bad but it seems to me you''re listing being a pedo in the same category as one of these lesser bads.


trump bragged about walking into pageant dressing rooms, and women accused him of doing this to teenage girls around the same age as what Hunter (not joe) is accused of having naked pictures of.

so its a repeated practice of walking in on of-age women AND under-aged women and seeing them naked (trump) or you son having naked photos of a 14 year old (biden).

idk man, gun to my head, id rather have a son who is into 14 year olds than admit to and be caught creeping on teenage girls AND of age girls. but both are big bads to be sure.

but why do i bother, you'll just say "but but but but he was accused of so much", and refuse to dig through the pile of refuse for the few credible claims. while also eating up anything Rudy shits out.

edit: and lets not play the "pedo" and "child porn" language game. dudes a creep if true but 14 year old girls are a long ways off from Jared from Subway behavior.

if it was Don Jr with a 16 year old you guys would be talking about the 1800s and average marriage ages and puberty development and w/e else, since its hunter u use "child porn" every chance u can. foh.

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....but Alexander Hamilton... #5 paper in US!!!
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Oct 21 2020 11:40am
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edit: and lets not play the "pedo" and "child porn" language game. dudes a creep if true but 14 year old girls are a long ways off from Jared from Subway behavior.

if it was Don Jr with a 16 year old you guys would be talking about the 1800s and average marriage ages and puberty development and w/e else, since its hunter u use "child porn" every chance u can. foh.


Didn't Jared get indicted for banging girls around 14 or older though?

Good to see right-wingers put away the Roy Moore defense... "well, back in those days, going after 14 year olds as a grown man was totally normal".
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