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May 6 2013 11:09pm
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is not everything in the universe a multi dimensional geometric shape? or are you being sarcastic?



such as?


wat.

When people say multi-dimensional or multiple, they mean more than three.
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wat.

When people say multi-dimensional or multiple, they mean more than three.


It means more than 1, lol.
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May 6 2013 11:13pm
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if the math your doing dosnt have a real world connection, your wasting your time.

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such as?


See number theory, non-Euclidean geometry. So much of the mathematical framework was already worked out before we needed it for cryptology and things like general relativity.

Euler's identity doesn't fit this category though, its usefulness is fully established in many real applications.

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May 6 2013 11:14pm
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See number theory, non-Euclidean geometry. So much of the mathematical framework was already worked out before we needed it for cryptology and things like general relativity.

Euler's identity doesn't fit this category though, its usefulness is fully established in many real applications.



worked out by anchient civilizations such as the greeks and egyptions for use in real world applications?

Such as?

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May 6 2013 11:14pm
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It means more than 1, lol.


Strange. :P
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May 6 2013 11:15pm
Quote (N1ccolo @ May 6 2013 02:25pm)

This specific fact is how we know things like the integral of 1/(1 + 3(cos t)^2) and all sorts of other trigonometric integrals that are needed in particular applications, it solves differential equations (used very commonly in physics, among other areas), and is used in electric circuit analysis in the frequency domain. And, generally speaking, exponential functions are easier to calculate, so any time we can calculate those in place of trig functions, this can speed up the process, and possibly make some numerical techniques fast enough that otherwise would be too slow to be useful.

Here are most of these applications in examples:

http://math.gmu.edu/~rsachs/m116/eulerformula.pdf

Complex analysis often offers a shorter, more viable route to a solution on many problems than simpler theory.


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May 6 2013 11:19pm
Quote (Ylem122 @ May 7 2013 01:14am)
worked out by anchient civilizations such as the greeks and egyptions for use in real world applications?

Such as?


Who said anything about ancient civilizations? The claim from Azrad was that often things are worked on before they're useful and they end up being applied to good things. Number theory does go back to the Greeks (like the study of primes), but that's beside the point. Non-Euclidean geometries were worked on in the 1800s before they had a use. It was just interesting that it was possible to take away some of Euclid's assumptions and still build some sort of geometry.
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May 6 2013 11:20pm
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so its a simplification of more complex math used for real life applications.
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May 6 2013 11:21pm
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/G._H._Hardy#Pure_mathematics

Here's a guy who reveled in the fact that his studies weren't useful, but very much of it went into different applications after his death.
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May 6 2013 11:23pm
Quote (Ylem122 @ May 7 2013 01:20am)
so its a simplification of more complex math used for real life applications.


This is what all mathematics is, some simplification of the situation at hand.

Now with complex analysis, it actually made the math more complicated on the face of it, but it led to alternative ways of solving many problems that was either not possible or much more difficult with other sorts of methods.
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