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Apr 5 2022 03:21pm
Quote (fender @ Apr 5 2022 10:18pm)
rent free, lol - and once again, blackx demonstrates he's perfectly fine with proud nazis - after all that pearl-clutching the other day...


he has pearls, you don't, the cockroaches are getting your women and girls.
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Apr 5 2022 04:38pm
Fenderp is right. Orban shouldn't be celebrated, he restricts press freedom to guarantee victory, like Putin but not as flagrant. No supporter of democracy should support a guy like that, end of story

Glad that Macron is sweating though. Like I said previously, he's a despicable fool and Pootin enabler. France is not a regional power and Macron's attempts to frame it as such is damaging to Europe
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Apr 5 2022 04:58pm
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rent free, lol - and once again, blackx demonstrates he's perfectly fine with proud nazis - after all that pearl-clutching the other day...

Agreeing with SanduLungu in our common disrespect for you does not mean that I approve of his political views or his rampant racism.


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Fenderp is right. Orban shouldn't be celebrated, he restricts press freedom to guarantee victory, like Putin but not as flagrant. No supporter of democracy should support a guy like that, end of story

Glad that Macron is sweating though. Like I said previously, he's a despicable fool and Pootin enabler. France is not a regional power and Macron's attempts to frame it as such is damaging to Europe

Like I've stressed time and time again: the left-wing and allegedly pro-democracy parties in Hungary were teaming up with the literal, self-avowed nazis from Jobbik, so a principled 'supporter of democracy' couldn't reasonably root for them either. Not supporting Orban is one thing, but rooting for a literal nazi party just to get rid of him is an entirely different story, so forgive me for not being particularly sad about the outcome this election.
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Agreeing with SanduLungu in our common disrespect for you does not mean that I approve of his political views or his rampant racism.



Like I've stressed time and time again: the left-wing and allegedly pro-democracy parties in Hungary were teaming up with the literal, self-avowed nazis from Jobbik, so a principled 'supporter of democracy' couldn't reasonably root for them either. Not supporting Orban is one thing, but rooting for a literal nazi party just to get rid of him is an entirely different story, so forgive me for not being particularly sad about the outcome this election.


so making an uncomfortable political alliance to oust an authoritarian leader is bad, but constantly siding with nazis because your precious feelings are hurt and you don't "respect" me (lol) is fine? how wonderfully ironic...

just stop the ridiculous back-pedalling, it's shameful. you've made your position clear yesterday, when you absurdly claimed that the german press was similar to the authoritarian propaganda machine that orban established in hungary, and got debunked into oblivion by actual facts. every single one of your posts regarding this topic, including your clumsy attempts to make excuses for a fascist by painting his opponents the REAL nazis (hm, where have else have we seen that recently?), is dishonest and misleading.
the truth is much simpler: you're a shill for conservative authoritarians, always have been. you're trying to appear as reasonable, so you do your best to downplay their attacks on democracy and freedom, and smear their opposition - but fundamentally you agree with their authoritarian style and bigoted values. that's why our resident nazis here invariably identify you as their ally, that's why you don't mind constantly pandering to them.

some reading material for our non-EU pardians:

https://www.politico.eu/article/viktor-orban-anti-semitism-problem-hungary-jews/
https://www.newyorker.com/news/q-and-a/why-conservatives-around-the-world-have-embraced-hungarys-viktor-orban
https://hungarianfreepress.com/2021/07/06/homophobia-has-been-central-to-viktor-orbans-fascist-ideology-jerrad-peters-vs-valer-palkovits/

what a lovely guy really...

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so making an uncomfortable political alliance to oust an authoritarian leader is bad, but constantly siding with nazis because your precious feelings are hurt and you don't "respect" me (lol) is fine? how wonderfully ironic...

just stop the ridiculous back-pedalling, it's shameful. you've made your position clear yesterday, when you absurdly claimed that the german press was similar to the authoritarian propaganda machine that orban established in hungary, and got debunked into oblivion by actual facts. every single one of your posts regarding this topic, including your clumsy attempts to make excuses for a fascist by painting his opponents the REAL nazis (hm, where have else have we seen that recently?), is dishonest and misleading.
the truth is much simpler: you're a shill for conservative authoritarians, always have been. you're trying to appear as reasonable, so you do your best to downplay their attacks on democracy and freedom, and smear their opposition - but fundamentally you agree with their authoritarian style and bigoted values. that's why our resident nazis here invariably identify you as their ally, that's why you don't mind constantly pandering to them.

some reading material for our non-EU pardians:

https://www.politico.eu/article/viktor-orban-anti-semitism-problem-hungary-jews/
https://www.newyorker.com/news/q-and-a/why-conservatives-around-the-world-have-embraced-hungarys-viktor-orban
https://hungarianfreepress.com/2021/07/06/homophobia-has-been-central-to-viktor-orbans-fascist-ideology-jerrad-peters-vs-valer-palkovits/

what a lovely guy really...


some reading material from fender = far left ideology :rofl:

it's ironic fender complains about authoritarians when he admitted they beat up people in his city, mainz, if they don't like what they are saying.

quite remarkable.
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Apr 5 2022 05:57pm
meanwhile germany has the most expensive state media in the world, over 8 billion €, financed with a forced mandatory fee from every household in the country, controlled by politicians of the big political parties

imagine having no problem with that propaganda but talking about hungary

yikes

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Apr 5 2022 06:06pm
germany: rank 13

"Solid constitutional guarantees and an independent judiciary ensure a favourable environment for journalists in Germany. The constitutional court has consistently ruled in defence of press freedom. But German laws on access to information are weak by international standards. Media pluralism is undergoing a slow but steady erosion for economic reasons, especially as regards local newspapers. Journalists are also sometimes threatened, harassed or even physically attacked by extremists and hostile demonstrators. Most of these violations are attributable to the far right, but the radical left is responsible for some. 2020 was a particularly violent year for journalists, especially during protests against Covid-19 restrictions, when some reporters were attacked. A climate of mistrust prevails, which populist politicians try systematically to keep alive. Various government officials and lawmakers continue to push for far-reaching security, data retention and surveillance laws with the potential to infringe on rights such as digital privacy and anonymity. Recent examples include a provision criminalising the handling of leaked data as well as a draft law aiming to allow German intelligence services to hack into computers and smartphones or intercept encrypted communications without judicial oversight, thus potentially enabling authorities to circumvent existing protections for journalists’ sources."

hungary: rank 92

"After seizing on the coronavirus pandemic as a handy pretext, Viktor Orbán’s government continued to extend its hegemony over the Hungarian media landscape and inspire other European countries such as Slovenia and Poland. Its coronavirus legislation, which gave the government almost unlimited powers to handle the crisis, threatened journalists with prosecution on charges of disseminating fake news and “blocking the government’s anti-pandemic efforts,” and imposed additional curbs on their already limited access to state-held information. This would-be information police state at the heart of Europe forced many journalists and their sources to censor themselves, although articles critical of the government and revealing reports were often still published. By requiring journalists to get permission from the authorities and landowners before conducting a drone overflight, or risk a one-year prison sentence, the government showed a readiness to resort to any legislative means possible to obstruct reporting by independent media and to protect the oligarchs that reporters would like to investigate. Media pluralism suffered from political decisions taken on administrative pretexts by the Media Council, including its decision to strip Klubrádió of its frequency, thereby limiting it to online broadcasting, and its Antenna Hungária decision, effectively ending DAB+ broadcasting in Hungary. The most spectacular development in 2020 was the government’s takeover of the Index.hu website with the help of one of the prime minister’s business allies. Telex.hu, launched by former Index.hu journalists, has helped to save what is left of pluralism in Hungary, along with Radio Free Europe’s return."

source: reporters without borders ( https://rsf.org/en/ranking )
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Apr 5 2022 08:58pm
Pretty despicable shit coming out of the France. What's sadder is the government ruled this an accident and the only reason this was looked into is because the parents pushed the envelope and got politicians involved.

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A Jewish man who was killed in February after he was run over by a tram in France was trying to flee an anti-Semitic attack, his family have claimed.

Newly-emerged footage shows Jeremy Cohen, 31, being subjected to a vicious assault by a gang on the streets of Bobigny in the suburbs of Paris on February 16.

While trying to flee, he ran into the path of an oncoming tram, suffering major head trauma and heart failure and he died hours later in hospital in what police initially dismissed as an accident


Meanwhile Rafael told Channel 12: 'A few days after my brother died, we were told that the case was being looked at as a traffic accident rather than an attack before they even watched video footage from the train and other evidentiary material.'

The new footage has sparked outrage with the hashtag #JeremyCohen going viral in France.

Zemmour, who is Jewish, said: 'The images of Jeremy Cohen's death are chilling. The death of yet another one of our children and the deafening silence on the facts for two months revolts me.

'Did he die while escaping those scum? Did he die because he was Jewish? Why is this case being hushed up?'


https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10686895/Jewish-man-run-killed-tram-Paris-fleeing-anti-Semitic-attack-family-claim.html
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Apr 5 2022 09:16pm
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Pretty despicable shit coming out of the France. What's sadder is the government ruled this an accident and the only reason this was looked into is because the parents pushed the envelope and got politicians involved.



https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10686895/Jewish-man-run-killed-tram-Paris-fleeing-anti-Semitic-attack-family-claim.html


What's really despicable is the amount of dumbfucks who react simply because the 31 years old mentally challenged "boy" has a jew name, and not something else.

Like we don't have enough shit along with neo-zonists nazis, we also have our national sack of shit: Zemmour, who is emphasing the crap.
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Apr 6 2022 09:21am
Orban calls out 'opponents' of Hungarian government: Brussels, Soros, Zelensky, legacy media

https://www.sott.net/article/466356-Orban-calls-out-opponents-of-Hungarian-government-Brussels-Soros-Zelensky-legacy-media

You know you're doing something right when Soros, Zelensky, and the legacy media are among your enemies.
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