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Nov 16 2023 03:45am
Quote (WhiteSouned @ 16 Nov 2023 11:37)
Watching the worldwide support in Hamas’s actions disgust me.
supporting ceasefire without the return of ALL hostages is to support Hamas.
Supporting humanitarian aid without ANY humanitarian aid to the hostages (the Red Cross didn’t even visit them !!) is to support Hamas.

Disgusting.


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I’m watching TV and hearing Canada’s PM calling to ceasefire.. the UN call to ceasefire.
Clearly they don’t even care about our lives at all. One sided solutions is all they are capable of.
It is about time we close our ears to criticism and start doing what is right and just. Even in the cost of being an outcast in the west..
in the decision between being an outcast to live next to Hamas, it’s an easy pick for me.
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Quote (WhiteSouned @ 16 Nov 2023 11:50)
I’m watching TV and hearing Canada’s PM calling to ceasefire.. the UN call to ceasefire.
Clearly they don’t even care about our lives at all. One sided solutions is all they are capable of.
It is about time we close our ears to criticism and start doing what is right and just. Even in the cost of being an outcast in the west..
in the decision between being an outcast to live next to Hamas, it’s an easy pick for me.


We are all in, we are only outcast until we win
And than we can go back to rocket free life something we got used to like its okay.

When I am thinking about they have committed constant war crimes since 1998.

Thats more than half of my life… crazy
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Is anyone denying they are forced out of their homes? Not calling you a liar but I haven't kept track of the whole thread but I doubt anyone would deny a forced displacement of the palestinian population did take place in the past and continues to take place on a smaller scale


Yes the Pro-Israeli camp is saying that Palestinians are not being forced out of their homes, specifically in the West Bank. In relation to gaza the response is basically "they deserve it".

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it boggles my mind how you can say this, knowing its at least 10:1 fatalities on the Palestinian side, as it has always been, for years. Tell me this is a lie and prove it with facts.

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Yes the Pro-Israeli camp is saying that Palestinians are not being forced out of their homes, specifically in the West Bank. In relation to gaza the response is basically "they deserve it".


Usually when people say that the Palestinians are forced out of their homes they refer to what happened at 1946 and 1967.
Nowadays no one is forcing anyone (which is not involved in terror acts) out of his home in the West Bank and also in Gaza of before 7/10.
That being said, Israel DO have a policy of demolishing the house of terrorists.
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Quote (ferdia @ Nov 16 2023 01:41pm)
it boggles my mind how you can say this, knowing its at least 10:1 fatalities on the Palestinian side, as it has always been, for years. Tell me this is a lie and prove it with facts.


Can you state what is, to your opinion, the acceptable ratio ?

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Can you state what is, to your opinion, the acceptable ratio ?


I was refuting the argument made by Many_Names who suggested the International community viewed/considered/valued Jewish lives less then other lives. When you are killing the enemy 10:1 its a bit of a stretch to say what he said.

Quote (WhiteSouned @ Nov 16 2023 11:46am)
Usually when people say that the Palestinians are forced out of their homes they refer to what happened at 1946 and 1967.
Nowadays no one is forcing anyone (which is not involved in terror acts) out of his home in the West Bank and also in Gaza of before 7/10.
That being said, Israel DO have a policy of demolishing the house of terrorists.


Israeli government officials, and alot of video's online, have lumped all Palestinians into the terror group "hamas". bomb a school "hamas was there" bomb a hospital "hamas was there", or babies dying "its their own fault for being there". when you refer to terrorists the Israeli government is lumping everyone into the title terrorist. the User, meanwhile posted several (recent) articles as related to the West Bank and homes / land being stolen. Are you suggesting these stories are fake? There are simply too many verified stories for you to say they are all fake.

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/BowKnnN-ps0

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I was refuting the argument made by Many_Names who suggested the International community viewed/considered/valued Jewish lives less then other lives. When you are killing the enemy 10:1 its a bit of a stretch to say what he said.



Israeli government officials, and alot of video's online, have lumped all Palestinians into the terror group "hamas" can I therefore assume that when you refer to terrorists you are referring to all Palestinians. the User, meanwhile posted several (recent) articles as related to the West Bank and homes / land being stolen. Are you suggesting these stories are fake?

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/BowKnnN-ps0


Well, this video basically takes selective people’s rhetoric and post it as it is the policy and intention of Israel.
To counter that, just take a look at Hamas or PLO manifesto. So ALL Palestinians wants ALL Jews dead ? Of course not.
I’ve brought up the killing ratio thing since in war it has no meaning (e.g who had more death at WW2, Uk or Nazi Germany?) What does has meaning is the intentions. And as stated previously, I’m very much convinced that the IDF is doing everything to avoid collateral damage while keeping our soldiers safe, as they should. You can argue differently, but you won’t find any examples for any other country that had to face that kind of threat, so it’s all in theory.

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Russian Federation and Chechen Republic is the best example
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Nov 16 2023 08:56am
Quote (Many_Names @ 16 Nov 2023 09:49)
They can condemn, they can ask for cease fire we are not going to stop until all the hostages are home and hamas is dismantled.
We are not going back to rocket attacks everytime they decide.


Yes, yes... But did you know collaterals exist and cannot be resurrected ?

Didn't check the news but I hope there is a large efficient humanitary corridor available since the time. And that the crazy bombings and all stopped.
You should keep palestinians with you anyway, i means... Close; Like a giant "human shield" in case of major nuclear attack (terrorist or not)

Avoid large pure ethnic & religious jews concentration (At least this is what logic tells me): This is a bad idea after what has been done to millions Palestinians.
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