in general. they surrendered their country to cockroaches.

If it is taught in schools,
treat with extreme skepticism.

our resident afd drones are strangely "forgetful" when it comes to their own party's cozy relationship with the russian dictator:

https://www.nzz.ch/international/treue-verbuendete-die-afd-will-sich-in-ihrer-naehe-zu-russland-von-niemandem-uebertreffen-lassen-ld.1665206

also strangely "oblivious" to orban's closeness with pootin, and his soft stance regarding the war russia started:

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-60981648
https://www.euronews.com/2022/03/17/orban-is-trying-a-daunting-balancing-act-over-the-ukraine-war-view
https://foreignpolicy.com/2022/03/20/viktor-orban-is-the-wests-pro-putin-outlier/

they also "naively" overvalue the "democratic" nature of his election victory, completely ignoring core issues like orban's government monopoly on mass media (almost as one-sided and biased as russian media) for example... well, authoritarian hacks gonna hack...

That's true.

In the Falklands, while publicly supporting the UK, they helped Argentina test and repair Exocet missiles which were faulty, and were then used against British soldiers

The French military, seen as the most powerful force in Europe preceding WW2, got stomped by Germany in a month

Nowadays, Macron the midget has daily phone calls with Pootin that achieve fuck all and make him look like a validating, cucked tool

They are an embarrassment to Western Europe

This post was edited by dro94 on Apr 4 2022 01:48pm

100% media control in Hugary, anyone supporting this is an asshole IMHO.
Should have fund cut and kicked out of EU immediately.

^ typical french, kick a country out of Europe because he doesn't like a democratic elected president and party.

reality is that leftists are upset hungary does not want to taint itself with blacks browns and muslims.

Imagine still harping on about the AfD in 2022.

Also, the skew of the media coverage on most issues here in Germany is not any smaller. Funding for pro-mainstream, pro-CDU/SPD/Greens-positions in the media easily exceeds the funding for alternative viewpoints by a similar 8-to-1 ratio as in Hungary, with public media channels which are funded by the taxpayers via compulsory fees being the worst offenders of them all. On German public media, one easily gets to hear 20 criticisms of our government's policy from the left for every criticism from the right. So spear me the crocodile tears about Hungary's oh-so-one-sided media landscape.

Side note since we're talking about Hungary: does it bother you in the slightest that the anti-Orban opposition ran on a united, ""save democracy""-list in which left-wing and pro-EU parties teamed up with literal nazis (Jobbik, to the right of even Orban on the actual issues)?

This post was edited by Black XistenZ on Apr 4 2022 02:53pm

Support putin => dead
it's ok ? will you manage the intellectual effort ?

this putin thing is new. orban has been on the western countries black list for many years. nothing new.

how many muslim terrorist attacks were ever committed in hungary? none.

you think that you and ampoo supporting literal nazis is something people should just forget because it's *current year*? as if you didn't still support them.

also, the moment you draw a false equivalence between the media monopoly of orban and what ever bias (which you are trying to support by pretending that the three largest german parties are one entity and their positions indistinguishable, which is absurd to begin with, and even then it wouldn't hold any water) you perceive in german media, completely disqualifies whatever point you're trying to make. it's not even remotely close in terms of ownership, diversity of opinion, freedom of reporting, independence from direct political influence... and literally every single criteria you could think of in order to measure freedom of the press.

when faced with a blatantly un-democratic aspect concerning hungary's media, you're doing the transparently trumpian "you think WE are so much better?" (when he tried to defend pootin for murdering journalists) deflection, and it fails spectacularly, because YES - by every reasonable standard, we ARE much better in that regard. does it make our media landscape perfect? of course not, but there's a whole lot of ground between "perfect" and "state propaganda".

it's mindblowing what a shameless hack you can be sometimes...

https://rsf.org/en/hungary
https://rsf.org/en/germany

This post was edited by fender on Apr 4 2022 03:29pm