Quote (fender @ Mar 7 2022 11:00am)

you're mischaracterising your own double standard as my "obsession". you're dodging a valid and relevant point. the whole right-wing shilling for putin and russia thing is something that trump is directly responsible for btw - back in 2015, every single one of you whining about non-existent "promises" to papa putin would have been cheering for american boots on the ground in ukraine, lol.

again my question, where was your (obviously feigned) concern about "promises" and "world-peace" when ACTUAL treaties to further that cause were cancelled?

Quote (JessiWan @ 7 Mar 2022 20:02)

Dude, you brought up Trump when nobody was even talking about him.

Quote (JessiWan @ Mar 7 2022 12:53pm)

Then why did you say, "in my best lawyer voice: did you get it in writing"?

What is that supposed to mean? Apparently you say it doesn't mean what I think you mean.

Quote (Djunior @ Mar 7 2022 12:58pm)

Apparently you're a pos who believes the West is entitled to a sphere of influence but other powers can't. It's called egomania

Quote (fender @ Mar 7 2022 11:08am)

can you read? not only does he just so happen to be the single reason you're shilling for the murderous dictator putin, but he also broke actual treaties that were designed to further "world-peace", and you said nothing, which directly debunks your whole "argument" in this discussion as the hypocritical pearl clutching that it is.

it's clear why you want to dodge the topic, but it's relevant. also, the alleged "promises" you're rambling on about pre-date trump by decades. context matters. sorry you only just found out, putin-shill.

Quote (Santara @ Mar 7 2022 11:08am)

Because context matters. An assurance made by the president's underling that wasn't committed to in writing on the document that the heads of state signed doesn't constitute a "promise." And the level of distrust present between the superpowers at the time was astronomical.

Quote (JessiWan @ 7 Mar 2022 20:08)

Keep talking about Trump.

Quote (fender @ Mar 7 2022 11:11am)

keep dodging your own hypocrisy, putin shill.

Quote (thesnipa @ Mar 7 2022 01:13pm)

ask Putin. he cites that, while calling people in Ukraine Nazis.

Quote (JessiWan @ 7 Mar 2022 20:12)

I am laughing at your tears.

Quote (fender @ Mar 7 2022 11:19am)

you're "laughing" like this i assume:

https://i.imgur.com/c1hU1Rj.jpeg

i see you simply can't provide any details regarding who made what promise exactly, because it's all just propaganda anyway, and you simply took putin's word for it because that's the side you (were made to) root for. come back when you have facts maybe...