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Mar 10 2021 11:06pm
Quote (Thor123422 @ Mar 10 2021 09:00pm)
lol, pretty much all of that is the result of or not even attempted to be fixed by Republican and right wing policy.

Globalism is literally just capitalism across borders, which Republicans continually fight for. Their policies on immigration don't solve illegal immigration and actively exclude immigrants from integrating into society. Democrats, not Republicans, want to support families through things like child tax credits and maternity leave. Republicans participate in "cancel culture" far more than the left will ever dream, the most common reason for a book to be taken out of print or banned from a library is because it features LGBTQ themes. We have never had a totally free speech society, and your right to association and speech necessitates the ability to "cancel" things you don't like. Identity politics.... really? That's Republican bread and butter. It was Trump's entire Florida campaign. The best times of United States industry were the liberal boom of the 50's through the 70's and started stalling when we let Republican conservatism take hold. Believe it or not, but when you put things in place like a strong minimum wage, strong worker protections, make training available for workers through education, and regulations that prevent companies from passing costs onto their surrounding communities then things get better for businesses, not worse. If you want a perfect example of Republicans strangling American entrepreneurism look no further than green energy. They've sabotaged it for the past 50 years and as a result China is the world's green power house.


Sometimes I really underestimate how full of right wing propaganda your brain is lol. Literally every "cultural issue" you think the United States has was actively put there by Republicans.


Quote (Black XistenZ @ Mar 10 2021 08:25pm)
Some groups of themes:

- immigration, integration, national indentity, race-baiting
- globalism vs nationalism
- undermining the core familiy as the nucleus of society
- undermining free speech and intellectual freedom via promoting a culture of denunciation, outrage and cancellation
- fueling divisive indentity politics as a form of "divide and conquer" strategy on behalf of the rich and powerful
- strangling the country's entrepreneurial culture of risk-taking and self-responsibility to death with exuberant red tape and taxes (this issue is maybe 70% economic and 30% cultural)

There's probably some more that I forgot. Generally speaking, the social/cultural policies of Democrats foster an atomized society with low cohesion, neighborhoods with low social capital, everyone being a lonely, isolated worker drone scared of stepping out of line, unable to organize or critically challenge the status quo.

The corporate-/Biden-wing of the party wants to preserve the status quo of corporate rule while expanding the scope and power of the state. The Bernie/AOC wing of the party wants to take power away from corporations and give it to the state, on which large swaths of the population are supposed to depend. What neither faction of the Democrats offers is an ideology or policies to give power back to ordinary, middle-class citizens.





Wanted to clarify real quick, I don't think the U.S. has any particularly egregious cultural problems or issues with its cultural direction. I think cultural problems are mostly a distraction for the real underlying economic issue causing it. For instance the "erosion of the family" is a direct result of our broken healthcare system, wealth inequality making it difficult to afford children, our our social safety net getting cut further resulting in difficulty affording children, drug policy sending fathers to jail, and a few others. It's not actually a cultural problem, it's a direct result of conservative economic policy.
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Mar 10 2021 11:20pm
Quote (Thor123422 @ Mar 11 2021 12:02am)
God just when I think you can't get dumber you keep saying dumber and dumber shit.


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Go back to kindergarten where you belong. This is a forum for political discussion

Quote (Thor123422 @ Mar 11 2021 12:06am)
Wanted to clarify real quick, I don't think the U.S. has any particularly egregious cultural problems or issues with its cultural direction. I think cultural problems are mostly a distraction for the real underlying economic issue causing it. For instance the "erosion of the family" is a direct result of our broken healthcare system, wealth inequality making it difficult to afford children, our our social safety net getting cut further resulting in difficulty affording children, drug policy sending fathers to jail, and a few others. It's not actually a cultural problem, it's a direct result of conservative economic policy.


You don't have any culture and you don't understand community building skills. Why would anyone follow your teenage armchair opinions?

The levels of poverty now are the same as they were before safety nets ever existed. Doubling down on failure is the main feature of Marxism and Satanism.

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Mar 10 2021 11:28pm
Quote (Thor123422 @ 11 Mar 2021 00:06)
Wanted to clarify real quick, I don't think the U.S. has any particularly egregious cultural problems or issues with its cultural direction. I think cultural problems are mostly a distraction for the real underlying economic issue causing it. For instance the "erosion of the family" is a direct result of our broken healthcare system, wealth inequality making it difficult to afford children, our our social safety net getting cut further resulting in difficulty affording children, drug policy sending fathers to jail, and a few others. It's not actually a cultural problem, it's a direct result of conservative economic policy.


we have free universal affordable healthcare, the (D)s passed it in 2009. the media and politicians and the President at the time said so. rising costs mean nothing in the face of political rhetoric. it isn't broken, clearly.
net social spending is 29% of GDP in The USA (2016 - doubtful its changed much but maybe 1%. 2017 checks in at 29.7%), which is higher than the average Net total social spending of 21-28% of GDP in about half of countries. France is highest at 31%. source: OECD https://www.oecd-ilibrary.org/docserver/soc_glance-2016-19-en.pdf?expires=1615440975&id=id&accname=guest&checksum=E13DE697648588B3F27E7E2C4F6151A9 clearly the issue relates to how and where the spending happens, not amount of expenditure.
most of the top wealthy people are (D)s in the USA as a whole. Bezos Gates Buffett all cozy with (D)s. inb4 the Kochs lol boring. Congress the top 10 is split 50/50 (D) to (R)
bold: the crime bill responsible for this was written by Biden (D). the criminal justice reform that helps undo and permanently end some of this damage was signed by Trump

wealth inequality will most likely suffer under Biden. he is a dinosaur who has never signed the front of a paycheck and he is horrible for minorities and women, but he doesn't tweet 'mean things' (he doesn't tweet at all, the technology is beyond him). it got better with Trump and was stagnant/starting to get slightly better under Obama. Clinton in particular was horrible for wealth inequality.

how any of these relates to 'conservative economic policy' is puzzling. if you want to solve problems with the lefty economic policy you worship, write a large check to the government and trust them to spend the money

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Mar 10 2021 11:35pm
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we have free universal affordable healthcare, the (D)s passed it in 2009


Stopped reading here. If you're this stupid there's no point in reading further.
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Mar 10 2021 11:41pm
Quote (Thor123422 @ 11 Mar 2021 00:35)
Stopped reading here. If you're this stupid there's no point in reading further.

the group consisting of President Obama, VP Biden, Speaker of the House Pelosi, Senator Sanders, SoS Clinton, mainstream media, and most lefties said so or something similar in 2009 when it was passed. if you were too young to understand or couldn't read at the time then so be it.

you didn't read the rest because you can't argue against it. stick to arguing against the boogeyman and licking petri-dishes lmfao

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Mar 10 2021 11:46pm
Quote (excellence @ Mar 10 2021 11:41pm)
the group consisting of President Obama, VP Biden, Speaker of the House Pelosi, Senator Sanders, SoS Clinton, mainstream media, and most lefties said so or something similar in 2009 when it was passed. if you were too young to understand or couldn't read at the time then so be it.

you didn't read the rest because you can't argue against it. stick to arguing against the boogeyman and licking petri-dishes lmfao


Whatever helps you sleep at night. I can't imagine how boring your life must be that you come on here for years just to shit post and never contribute substance.
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Mar 10 2021 11:50pm
Quote (Thor123422 @ 11 Mar 2021 00:46)
Whatever helps you sleep at night. I can't imagine how boring your life must be that you come on here for years just to shit post and never contribute substance.

“economic data relating to net social spending by countries per OECD lacks substance” -little fella thor

no wonder you raged pmed me asking for validation on your meager achievements before promptly quitting your educational pursuits. you didnt have it in you from the get-go
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Mar 11 2021 01:18am
I'm getting a stimmy check even though I make 200k a year. Can't say that I'm sad about it.
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Quote (InsaneBobb @ Mar 10 2021 06:54pm)
You've been to the entire USA?! TWICE?!!! :o

What a barrel of stupid. There are over 7400 breweries in the US. Not only have you not had a statistically meaningful sample of US beer, you've not even said anything that'd indicate you've had anything other than mass produced, cheap garbage.

Anyone who values beer knows the Dutch make good beer, the Germans make boring beer, and to avoid nearly any alcohol of any type with the word "Australian" in it that isn't "wine".

The essential problem with your feeble attempt to insult the US is that you're insulting yourself, and most of the world in doing so. America legitimately brews a lot of amazing beer. And many of the breweries in America were started by naturalized Americans (aka immigrants). Many of our IPAs and craft beers were brought here by the Dutch, German, Irish, etc. Likewise, just as with Dutch beer, many of our best craft beers, pale ales, etc. aren't exported or found outside of the region they're brewed.

The "we were doing beers centuries before!!!" line is meaninglessness defined. Seriously. Since when has America sought to reinvent the wheel? We are not a nation that sought to recreate that which already exists. We're better known for taking what exists and doing our best to improve it. And oddly enough, many of your own countrymen immigrated here to help. :)


Sorry I do believe in a thing called "savoir-faire" and I dont believe one country can make up for centuries of that said skill, in a few decades only.
Just like I wouldnt say space belgian agency could do what nasa does. to each country its own field of specialisation.
Oh and bro, I could of just said the same about you, I bet someone like you never even just entered europe one time in his life lmao.
I'm not surprised you cant make the difference between quantity and quality. Else you wouldnt have mentioned the 7400 omg diff beers usa produces, it doesnt really means anything. original > copies
Just like you can import all the french wine you want and make your own wine in cali, it still won't ever compete with the best french wines.

God the amount of ignorance of this guy is amazing. Climate change, now beers, whats next ?
why do ignorants asses always talk about things they aren't qualified in ? is there just 1 person that have agreed with anything you have said on this forum bro ?

belgians trappist > belgians random beers > irish > germans > us > french > england > rest

that would be my rankings. deal with it fatty

Quote (thesnipa @ Mar 10 2021 06:22pm)
belgian IPAs are indeed the finest ive ever tasted, but im not much of an IPA fan overall, and some american white IPAs i do like. in any case give me a DARK stout any time.


problem is that their taste vanish in your mouth quickly. I dont drink very oftenly beers, but when I do, I like either a strong trappist or a triple fermentation one :)

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