a big yes to the last



and you are claiming that i am trying to derail the discussion when you jumped in? try to think please

I'm not ignorant. I have an open mind.

So now I need to know every single other religion entirely do I? Tell me that you can explain to me every single religion out there detail by detail and how they do things and what they stand for.
It is not about what me wanting to earn salvation because I cannot earn salvation. It does say that in the book of Ephesians. It doesn't matter how many good works I do in this world because the weight of sin will always outweigh the good that I do, do.
I think I covered that in another one of the topics: "Isn't the Church behind war and injustice."

Do you honestly think that everyone would just accept his teachings and practice them just like that? Jesus challenged those who were listening to do something that is unheard of. Love your enemies? Do good to those who hate you? Tell me how you cannot be surprised by something like that?
The world works in the way of karma. You do good things to other people and they do good things to you. You do bad things to other people and they do bad things to you back. That is karma.
Yet God wants us to live the way of grace. You do good things to people who do bad things to you.
I'm not focusing on that little stretch of soil. My focus is human nature. It is Universally true to do good things to people who do good to you and bad things to people who do bad things to you.

That is, unless you can show me a society who live by that without knowing Jesus?



I do not question their way of doing good. I only question their way to enter salvation after death.

math orginated in the real world, inspried by the real world, its quite worthless if it dosnt apply to it.

your for your consideration, its pointless.

This post was edited by Ylem122 on May 6 2013 09:49pm

I agree with the boldfaced, but I disagree with the italicized.

if the math your doing dosnt have a real world connection, your wasting your time.

This post was edited by Ylem122 on May 6 2013 09:55pm

Usually math is discovered that has no real world connection at the time, and then we discover some use for it. For instance, quaternions were used in James Clerk Maxwell's Equations.

from what i understand quaternions are just a simplier way to express complex multi dimensional geometry, seems to have quite a real world application.

This post was edited by Ylem122 on May 6 2013 10:46pm

Are you joking? Multi-dimensional geometry has real-world applications?

This is often the case.

is not everything in the universe a multi dimensional geometric shape? or are you being sarcastic?



such as?

This post was edited by Ylem122 on May 6 2013 11:04pm