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Apr 16 2025 01:55pm
Media in all forms would die without pushing dramatic narratives. I guess the great think about being poor is we are poor regardless of Tarrifs either way so bitching about it seems pointless.


What dramatic narrative. There's no media here, just clearly the market did not like his direct remarks in his speech today. There's no media spin involved at all. He spoke, market instantaneously dropped.
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Apr 16 2025 03:46pm
Your country has desecrated freedom of expression, which is sacred to America

What exactly do you expect? You'll shape up and renounce your communist ways or continue to be straightened out


This is fucking hilarious coming out of your mouth,the one who wants to lock up anyone who he doesn't like in America :rofl:
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Apr 16 2025 05:20pm
oof.

Federal Reserve Chair Jerome Powell expressed concern in a speech Wednesday that the central bank could find itself in a dilemma between controlling inflation and supporting economic growth.

Guess the market didn't have that response priced in.

https://www.reuters.com/world/us/latest-updates-fed-chair-jerome-powell-speak-us-economic-outlook-2025-04-16/


Although admittedly I am confused as to why the market would sink again. Clearly investors know tariffs are not great, they have already made that judgement and the markets pulled back some to reflect that. All really Powell did was get on stage and say yep Tariffs are bad and things will be more expensive and it will have a negative impact on things.

But everyone already knew that....


The prime rate drops and there would be a massive home buying and construction boom IMO..The Tarrifs can even be at the elevated levels, but what can't be is volatility and uncertainty of them changing on whim. Business can navigate whatever the circumstances are, but when Tarrifs change so fast invalidates so many arrangements.

The engineering firm my wife works at still has growing work orders, hiring like mad engineers and welders. The office contracts used to have way more flexibility on time, but last months, it's 48 hours window for most of the contracts she is on. Huge price changes. Ultimately business good, but can't optimize with that degree of uncertainty.

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The prime rate drops and there would be a massive home buying and construction boom IMO..The Tarrifs can even be at the elevated levels, but what can't be is volatility and uncertainty of them changing on whim. Business can navigate whatever the circumstances are, but when Tarrifs change so fast invalidates so many arrangements.

The engineering firm my wife works at still has growing work orders, hiring like mad engineers and welders. The office contracts used to have way more flexibility on time, but last months, it's 48 hours window for most of the contracts she is on. Huge price changes. Ultimately business good, but can't optimize with that degree of uncertainty.


Yeah we're trying to get a Class B estimate up from our current Class C and it's all been disrupted. Can't get solid costing which means we can't get concrete financing on this pretty large commercial build. Banks will take a class c but our preferred lenders require a C.

It's been difficult.
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Jun 24 2025 12:55pm
hey shitheads over reacting children.

https://markets.businessinsider.com/index/dow_jones



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Trump did walk back the initial, hyperaggressive tariffs, though. What remained once the dust settled are reasonably higher tariffs, particularly on China, and moderately lower stock markets than pre-tariff.
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Jun 24 2025 04:08pm
Thanks guys, great job. Quick reminder for the people who actually work: this is killing your 401k aswell. Hope it was worth it to own the libs, I for one am really tired of all the winning.


Is your life still oh so ruined from the big bad mannnnn?!?!

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It is way too early to make conclusions (original thread OP was also way too early). We will find out what impact tariffs have next year

The bond market is in serious trouble and would be a bigger problem than any stock market crash
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Jun 24 2025 04:11pm
It is way too early to make conclusions (original thread OP was also way too early). We will find out what impact tariffs have next year

The bond market is in serious trouble and would be a bigger problem than any stock market crash


Goal post meet movement.
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Jun 24 2025 04:23pm
Goal post meet movement.


That's unfair to say to me because I'm not the OP and don't agree with the premise of this thread

The "goal" isn't to win an Internet argument that no one cares about. The goal is to improve the state of the US economy and I'm saying it's too early to conclude what the impact is from tariffs. This should be widely understood
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