Maybe the State of Palestine isn't a thing, but you can't deny that Palestinians have been living in that area for a very long time. And when you suddenly introduce a foreign people, of course they are going to fight it.



Well, Jews haven't lived in that region since a long time ago. They have been living in diasporas in other countries, mostly European. They can't just say, "move over, this is my ancestors' land" and then start moving in and expect no backlash.

No, you can't. The Israelis don't go rampaging through towns like bronze age marauders raping and killing the civilians. Only the Muslims, who have culturally regressed to the pre-8th century golden age, do that.
Our resident Nazi tries to cloak his jewbashing behind a false equivalence and a pretense of "I call out both sides". I don't. I call out both sides for their wrongs but I don't try to equate them, because they aren't remotely equivalent.

I can. Because they do

Twice a year during Ramadan and eid they raid Palestine and gas Muslims out of their mosques. They follow this up by beating the men and if they retaliate, they shoot them dead in the streets.


They completely cut off their water supply and provide rations thay are nearly 30% of what the daily recommended amount is.

They block incoming mail and packages, preventing outside support.


This is a daily occurrence.

Tons of video evidence.

How do you feel about the British Mandate for Palestine?

Twice a year Palestinians barricade themselves in Al Aqsa and throw stones and fireworks at the Israelis. And the Israelis "shoot them dead" with rubber bullets and tear gas, the most deadly of weapons.



Yes, the Israelis just cut off the water they supply to Gaza after the Palestinians rampaged through border towns murdering, raping and kidnapping a thousand people.
Maybe the Palestinians should retaliate by cutting off all the humanitarian aid they provide to the Israelis. Oh wait




Enough of that outside support got through to arm the palestinians for this attack, for every Iranian weapons convoy that gets bombed several more get through




There is tons of video evidence of Israel fighting with kid gloves on as they knock before every air strike and use riot control to safely engage violent Palestinians without killing them. And there's tons of video evidence of Hamas massacring civilians in bloodbaths, taking sex slaves and hostages and then executing them in cold blood. Like I said, I don't draw an equivalence because they aren't equivalent.

it has already been laid out in this topic, that jews were there over 2000 years ago and islam pushed many of them out

you can spin the "who was there first" wheel for eternity



some good ideas, some not so great and i will admit that israel declaring their state unilaterally maybe was not the greatest idea

thanks for mentioning the mandate btw, arabs attacked and murdered jewish settlers all the way back to the 1920s

even more proof for the nonsense palestinian narrative

not surprised to see the usual Putin bootlickers also coming to bat for Netanyahu's murderous regime. what a shame

you won't be able to convince him. not with anecdotes, not with facts, not with statistics, or reports of international organisations. he's an islamophobe bigot, and a political hack who will just outright dismiss any evidence that disproves his chosen narrative. he lies and smears without hesitation and regret. like him or not, it's pointless to try and make him admit he's wrong. best you can do is call him out for his lies and misrepresentations, and don't let his hateful propaganda go unchallenged.

also, don't post videos of or links to cruelty on here. moderation is incredibly strict on such things, no matter how relevant they are to the topic at hand.

any good faith debater, anyone not completely ignorant of the situation already knows of the daily terror and discrimination palestinians face in the occupied territories, or at the very least can easily look that up in just a minute. no need to get yourself banned in order to debunk a known propagandist...

I am not denying that, but I don't think Jews can say, "our ancestors used to live here" and then start pushing current inhabitants out. It's just a recipe for conflict.

I really think the true fault lies with the Western powers that decided to create a Jewish homeland in that region. They should have gave them a place in say, Africa, that was relatively un-inhabited. It's probably better too, Africa is rich in minerals and other resources. Better than a dry, arid land in the Middle East.

This post was edited by JessiWan on Oct 9 2023 04:04pm

Not surprised to see the people who just spent 2 years giving a standing ovation to nazis turning out in the streets of major us, canadian and european cities to wave swastikas and cheer for dead jews


Ya know, I had pretty low expectations for the 2020s as a decade but the fact that my very baseline political belief of "I don't support Nazis" wound up being controversial, kind of surprises me to this day