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Nov 15 2023 11:03am
Quote (ferdia @ 15 Nov 2023 19:01)
you realize what the consequences of this are right? Or are you still of the persuasion that Palestinians will turn the other cheek, no harm done, they wont hold a grudge, even though Israel does not do anything positive to make them so inclined ? ^meanwhile posted an article earlier - https://www.npr.org/2023/11/13/1211987812/israel-hamas-west-bank-gaza-war-conflict-idf and stories like this abound. Are you suggesting these stories are fake, or isolated incidents ? Do you think that Palestinians are so noble and righteous pacifists that they will simply bend over for you ?

What we are seeing in northern gaza and the westbank is in direct conflict with your quoted statement.


There is no other choice they can wake up tomorrow and say we want peace and there will be peace.
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Quote (Many_Names @ 15 Nov 2023 17:45)
I completely agree and by help them they surprise us with murder kidnap rape.


Israel gov helped terrorists groups in order to have them to take over PLO and to have them doing terror attacks so it could bring justifications to steal more land and to oppress Palestinians.
This is why UN chief said all this "‘didn’t happen in a vacuum’" ... And today alot more people in the world, especially in western countries, are starting to understand this horrible trick, in comparison with a decade ago (or more).

Nothing new to the discussion anyway have a good one.
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Nov 15 2023 11:04am
Quote (Many_Names @ 15 Nov 2023 11:57)
Israel have no intention of uprooting Palestinians


bro

have you looked at a map?

Palestine used to go all the way to Jordan in the east and Israel was Tiny but Israel has literally taken over millions of hectares of land from the Palestinians since 1947

wtf do you mean they have no intention? They have been doing it steady for 70 years now
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Quote (ferdia @ Nov 15 2023 04:48pm)
you do accept that this is the definition of islamophobia right, and that this is a type of racism?


It is not. He is correct in what he is saying. And you are virtue signalling.
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Nov 15 2023 11:06am
Quote (Meanwhile @ 15 Nov 2023 19:03)
Israel gov helped terrorists groups in order to have them to take over PLO and to have them doing terror attacks so it could bring justifications to steal more land and to oppress Palestinians.
This is why UN chief said all this "‘didn’t happen in a vacuum’" ... And today alot more people in the world, especially in western countries, are starting to understand this horrible trick, in comparison with a decade ago (or more).

Nothing new to the discussion anyway have a good one.


You take it out of context,
Israel didnt help Hamas it transferred funds to keep them quiet
If they wanted peace they could always come to the table
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Nov 15 2023 11:07am
Quote (Crunkt @ 15 Nov 2023 19:04)
bro

have you looked at a map?

Palestine used to go all the way to Jordan in the east and Israel was Tiny but Israel has literally taken over millions of hectares of land from the Palestinians since 1947

wtf do you mean they have no intention? They have been doing it steady for 70 years now


There was no Palestinian state on this land ever.
You are talking about the green map which is Hamas propoganda.
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Nov 15 2023 11:09am
Quote (Many_Names @ 15 Nov 2023 20:02)
You got it all wrong I dont ask you for help nor support.
I ask you to see the situation for what it is terror organization worse then ISIS embedded itself within civilian population and left Israel no choice but to get in, something we tried to avoid.

After october 7th no Israeli will want to live close to the border
Hezbollah and Iran are watching to see the reaction (tough neighborhood) so we practically fighting for peoples right to live peacefully in both sides and the only way to do it is to dismantle and organization that swore to obliterate israel.

Regarding the muslims.
Every european country got some ukrainian refugees why dont they want Palestinian refugees?
Not in europe, not in the middle east and not in asia.


Don't you think they are hostages of Hamas? Bombing them will only increase their support of Hamas at some point it will hit 100% so you can effectively genocide every single one without separation. The last word is the answer to your question.
There was no Ukraine prior to 1991. Lets grab their land.
Well I lied, there was one. It lasted a day. Stop the crowling nationalism, it sounds weird from the one who suffered Holocaust.

This post was edited by Norlander on Nov 15 2023 11:11am
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Quote (Norlander @ 15 Nov 2023 19:09)
Don't you think they are hostages of Hamas? Bombing them will only increase their support of Hamas at some point it will hit 100% so you can effectively genocide every single one without separation. The last word is the answer to your question.


I do get it, what else can we do?
We tried everything,
If one side, only think about killing you there is nothing you can do
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Nov 15 2023 11:12am
Quote (Many_Names @ Nov 15 2023 05:02pm)
You got it all wrong I dont ask you for help nor support.
I ask you to see the situation for what it is terror organization worse then ISIS embedded itself within civilian population and left Israel no choice but to get in, something we tried to avoid.

After october 7th no Israeli will want to live close to the border
Hezbollah and Iran are watching to see the reaction (tough neighborhood) so we practically fighting for peoples right to live peacefully in both sides and the only way to do it is to dismantle and organization that swore to obliterate israel.

Regarding the muslims.
Every european country got some ukrainian refugees why dont they want Palestinian refugees?
Not in europe, not in the middle east and not in asia.


"refugee". a person who has been forced to leave their country in order to escape war, persecution, or natural disaster.

oh, how inconvenient.

This post was edited by ferdia on Nov 15 2023 11:13am
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Quote (ferdia @ 15 Nov 2023 19:12)
What is your definition of "refugee".


People who fled war
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