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Feb 6 2024 02:16pm
Quote (Hamsterbaby @ 6 Feb 2024 14:11)
I mean it's true. That is not an insult or anything. The argument is between a starbucks barista and someone who is working as a banker / trading desk in EU Bank in the commodities department.
Who do you think have the numbers and the statistic and knowledge first hand ?


:P edited my comment!

There's a reason I don't engage with him anymore...
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Feb 6 2024 02:24pm
Quote (SwamiVivekananda @ 7 Feb 2024 04:16)
:P edited my comment!

There's a reason I don't engage with him anymore...


you wouldn't want to infect your brain cells with virus that kills your intelligence.

The Ukraine war, China , Japan , Middle East. Whatever is happening are all mentioned in Samuel Huntington's book Clash of the Civilization published in 1996.
The book was an extension of his essay to counter Francis Fukuyama's ( The End of History ) which so happen that Fukuyama was Sam's student for a year I think in Havard.

This is before Putin even got into power and before he is even mentioned. I read the book and I am re reading it again. There is an audio book on Youtube which covers a few Chapters. All the migration bullshit that is happening now was mentioned. And it already started in the 70s in EU and USA. This is not new.
What you are seeing now is not even considered the peak.

This post was edited by Hamsterbaby on Feb 6 2024 02:25pm
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Feb 6 2024 02:35pm
Quote (InsaneBobb @ Feb 4 2024 12:39pm)
I would not expect a Tucker/Putin interview. I'm not saying it couldn't happen, I just don't expect it.

The #1 person inside Russia that Tucker has followed and done stories on is Snowden.


https://twitter.com/TuckerCarlson/status/1754939251257475555

expecto putinum!
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Feb 6 2024 02:40pm
Quote (Black XistenZ @ Feb 6 2024 09:57pm)
Dude, it was Russia which started throttling gas supplies since 2021, it was Russia which voluntarily shut down NS1 in the summer of 2022 while Germany (and other European countries) were still willing trade this particular commodity with them. If trade is so mutually beneficial and should be continued even in times of war or political tensions (like you suggest Germany should have done), then why did Russia hurt itself by voluntarily shutting down the gas trade?


@Bolded In the summer of 2022 the West was waging a full blown economic war against Russia hitting them with round after round of sanctions using whatever they could from cutting Russia from SWIFT to stealing their assets. All trade was sanctioned except energy because the West still needed that. Russia hit back shutting down NS pipelines, the West cried that Putin was weaponizing energy well WTF did they expect.

BTW you didn't see this coming, you were talking about the massive revenues Russia would lose if they did that, posting fancy graphs and what not.


Quote (Black XistenZ @ Feb 6 2024 09:57pm)
Schröder was best buddies with Putin since they first met, he signed the NS1 contract shortly before leaving office in 2005, then became a board member of Russian gas companies mere months later and spent the next 15 years working as a lobbyist for Gazprom et al in Brussels. So he was a great friend of Putin all the way, did Putin's bidding after leaving office, his policy decisions while in office were also in Putin's interest, yet we're supposed to believe that these policy decisions were all the result of a totally neutral, sober, non-compromised thought process? Come on, man! Schröder a corrupt figure, I mean, at one point, he even called Putin a "flawless/immaculate democrat". He's disgraced for good reason.


Germany should be thankful for men like Schroder or Kohl those were men who understood that it's better to have good relations with a country like Russia contrary to that progressive trash that's turning everything they touch into a complete shit show.
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Quote (Hamsterbaby @ 6 Feb 2024 14:24)
you wouldn't want to infect your brain cells with virus that kills your intelligence.

The Ukraine war, China , Japan , Middle East. Whatever is happening are all mentioned in Samuel Huntington's book Clash of the Civilization published in 1996.
The book was an extension of his essay to counter Francis Fukuyama's ( The End of History ) which so happen that Fukuyama was Sam's student for a year I think in Havard.

This is before Putin even got into power and before he is even mentioned. I read the book and I am re reading it again. There is an audio book on Youtube which covers a few Chapters. All the migration bullshit that is happening now was mentioned. And it already started in the 70s in EU and USA. This is not new.
What you are seeing now is not even considered the peak.


Interesting I’ll have to check those out!!! I just find it odd that whenever there’s a conflict such as Gaza/Ukraine all these people come out and say we should help these people at all cost but when it comes to really helping these people they disappear and just virtue signal from a place in the world(1st world). For example one of the richest suburbs in Illinois outside Chicago had their mayor say “we’re so wealthy we should all open are homes to these people” and basically everyone in those suburbs was against it. It always sounds nice and valiant to help others from 3rd world countries but they simply cannot adjust to American culture in a short time frame and most don’t at all.
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Quote (SwamiVivekananda @ 7 Feb 2024 05:25)
Interesting I’ll have to check those out!!! I just find it odd that whenever there’s a conflict such as Gaza/Ukraine all these people come out and say we should help these people at all cost but when it comes to really helping these people they disappear and just virtue signal from a place in the world(1st world). For example one of the richest suburbs in Illinois outside Chicago had their mayor say “we’re so wealthy we should all open are homes to these people” and basically everyone in those suburbs was against it. It always sounds nice and valiant to help others from 3rd world countries but they simply cannot adjust to American culture in a short time frame and most don’t at all.


Its a long ass audio book.

But first 10 mins you will be going holy shit.

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Happy to be wrong. Looking forward to watching it.
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Quote (SwamiVivekananda @ 6 Feb 2024 23:08)
:rofl:

Shhhhhh don't mention Scottish people taking Palestinians into their own home he doesn't like that.


Why not? They have similar habits and preferences.

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Quote (Malopox @ 6 Feb 2024 16:35)
Gazprom was negotiating 5 to 10 years take or pay contracts to guarantee cashflow to use to finance gas projects. Any project financier will tell you - you cannot launch a project if you don’t have a guaranteed long term contract to ensure you will earn your money back. This works the same way in Renewables or PPPs (eg govt guaranteeing floor offtake price for 10 years to get windpark up and running) or any other big long term deal. Why would Russia waste money and years building up gas export capacity when its customer might flake and decide to decarbonize next year because some leftie greens are in power? This is a waste of money, resources and time and you can’t make investment decisions based on assumptions that Germany will still want to buy spot 5 years down the road when the field comes online.

Once again - you cannot blame Russia for selling their excess gas somewhere else. This is not how the world works. If you want it more and guaranteed - sing a long term contract.

Instead: Germany has spit into the face of its long term partner and signed a 15(!!!) year take-or-pay with ConocoPhillips and Qatar. https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2022/11/29/qatarenergy-conocophillips-sign-lng-deal-for-germany

Here is a typical long term LNG contract Qatar signs (courtesy of PSO who was obliged to make it public). “Take-or-pay” is clause 8.

https://psopk.com/files/home/use_full_links/qg_executed_redacted_version.pdf

Don’t forget that Qatar directly hosts and sponsors HAMAS so money that will be paid to Qatar for 15 years will go directly against German foreign policy of supporting Israel.

This literally makes no sense.


Re-China I feel we are going to deep and perhaps this is not a correct topic for that. Let’s move this discussion somewhere else - im happy to continue.

It makes a ton of sense since Hamas is no military threat to Germany/Europe while Russia is. Unfortunately, the vast majority of oil and gas producing countries in the world are authoritarian dictatorships or monarchies. If you have to do trade with one of them, picking a small one which is located far away from you makes more sense than picking the one which is big, antagonistic and located much closer to you.



Quote (Djunior @ 6 Feb 2024 21:40)
BTW you didn't see this coming, you were talking about the massive revenues Russia would lose if they did that, posting fancy graphs and what not.

I was writing this stuff before our dipshit politicians publicly announced that they would phase out oil and gas trade with Russia within the next 18 months. By signalling to Russia that they would lose us as customers anyway, Russia had no more incentive not to shut down the pipelines immediately to increase the pain on us.

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Germany should be thankful for men like Schroder or Kohl those were men who understood that it's better to have good relations with a country like Russia contrary to that progressive trash that's turning everything they touch into a complete shit show.

Of course it's better to have good relations with a country like Russia. The issue is if you can keep up good relations with a country which is literally invading its neighbors and acting in openly antagnonistic fashion. What you actually mean when you say "maintain good relations with Russia" is submission.

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