If you want me to talk to you, you have to start making sense. And btw, keep saying "you are welcome" at the end of every post does not help you cause.

Indeed there should be some kind of paper or a contract outlining a promise between individuals, that's because individuals sometimes renege on their promise to one another. They are cheats and weasels. However, I expect more from nations' leaders and signing authorities from entities similar to the Nato.



I never said there shouldn't be any paper record. I was just pointing out that santara was being stupid when he implied that promises can be broken if they are not written down. That's all that is.

where was that attitude when trump unilaterally withdrew from the iran deal, an ACTUAL treaty? or when he withheld military aid to ukraine in order to obtain dirt on his political opponent? or when he withdrew from the "open skies" treaty, also something the ukrainians begged him not to do?

it's strange that you keep going on about alleged "promises" to russia only... are you russian by any chance? i don't think so...

This conversation isn't about Trump.

When you just want to circle back to this, I'll just remind you that I already answered it, and that anything you wish to expand on is in your imagination then:

this conversation is about "promises", treaties, diplomacy, "world-peace" (quoting you directly), and it was sparked by the discussion of alleged promises of nato to russia.

so my post is directly relevant not only to point out your double standards, but also because it directly relates to the situation that sparked the conversation.

bad dodge, 0/10.

Then why did you say, "in my best lawyer voice: did you get it in writing"?

What is that supposed to mean? Apparently you say it doesn't mean what I think you mean.

I could give two shits whether you thought I was dodging or not. But your obsession with Trump is rearing its ugly head again.

Apparently you're a pos who believes the West is entitled to a sphere of influence but other powers can't. It's called egomania




It's right in there. I quote from the article that you linked

Gorbachev says:


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you're mischaracterising your own double standard as my "obsession". you're dodging a valid and relevant point. the whole right-wing shilling for putin and russia thing is something that trump is directly responsible for btw - back in 2015, every single one of you whining about non-existent "promises" to papa putin would have been cheering for american boots on the ground in ukraine, lol.

again my question, where was your (obviously feigned) concern about "promises" and "world-peace" when ACTUAL treaties to further that cause were cancelled?